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Subject: Re: negative extensions: underpromotions

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:56:33 01/26/01

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On January 26, 2001 at 12:03:28, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:

>On January 26, 2001 at 09:38:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>>>So the question is, what sort of moves could be candidates for a negative
>>>>extension?
>>>
>>>Some underpromotions.
>>>
>>>Greetings,
>>>Steffen.
>>
>>
>>captures that SEE say lose massive material
>
>Would not this discourage to make sacrifices? Maybe it will be useful combined
>with an agressive "positive" extension policy so lines that are losing
>material but are interesting are extended later to compensate this initial
>negative extension. Sounds crazy?
>



This definitely might make sacrifices harder to find.  But so does null-move
already... as well as other selective algorithms...


>>last few moves at a ply when the score has not changed from alpha for all the
>>others.
>
>Sounds very interesting... it will be corrected at the next ply if it is wrong.
>With a very good move ordering this could be a winner!
>
>>Move that the hash table says would fail low if the hash table entry had enough
>>draft to make this happen.
>
>I don't understand. Doesn't fail low automatically if draft>depth?


I meant the case where draft < depth, which would mean a shallower search
would fail low, but we can't here.


>
>>moves that return a piece to the square it sat on 2 plies ago.
>
>As long as it is not check? that will avoid missing some perpetual checks.
>Wont'it?
>In fact, I am "positively" extending here!
>
>Regards,
>Miguel
>
>>
>>lots of things to try. Whether they would work or not is another thing,
>>of course. :)



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