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Subject: socrates, don, posting here and future

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 00:30:55 01/28/01

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On January 27, 2001 at 21:13:27, Howard Exner wrote:

>>socrates plays very good IMO.
>>in the last move it made arround 279.000 NPS.
>>
>>will be a long night.


>Hopefully this will encourage Don Dailey to return to posting here on CCC.
>His past contributions here were valuable.

i would appreciate this much. don daily is a very nice person, i had the
opportunity to meet in den haag at the aegon tournament.
we had many discussions about alternative ways in computerchess and i remember
he had a laptop with him, where we let his laptop version play against chess
system tal versions, to find out what happens and WHY moves that are unsound
can win games.

i would like to see don posting here, like bob and all the others.
we can only learn and share computerchess with exchanging ideas and games
and positions.

i was asked which version of socrates is playing. difficult to say.
the version seems to be not the commercial version. it seems to be an
experimental version made for the den haag AEGON tournament.

if i remember it right this version was stolen by somebody, and suddenly
appeared in the scene.
it has no mouse support and there is a small readme file with it by don
that explains how to operate this version. and he wishes good luck for the
tournament. there are search-parameters to change in the program.

i am using a different setting than the default. i guess the default version was
designed for playing games against humans, cause there is a switch ON called
"human algorithm". i think with this switch ON socrates plays weaker (against
computer).

there are other switches too to change.
for me it is important that ALL kind of programs play. that the tournament
relates the best OLD programs with the best NEW programs.
and that we have enough rounds to compete and enough time to make the data more
sensible.
i can watch the prgs all the time and have much fun and get insights and can
discuss these main lines and point of views of the programs with others, with my
friends. and relate the data to other programs.

i think computerchess can only make progress when we discuss what the programs
do, and not only relate the results of autoplayers.
WE have to talk about the games. about the evaluations. about the moves.
about the situations.




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