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Subject: Fritz5 disaster !

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 18:46:18 03/02/98


Hello Moritz !
Today I bought 64 MB DIMM-Ram.
I copied the CD-book from fritz5 on the HD and fritz now plays from the
cd and learns.
I started a first game against an amateur program ! Fritz uses 41 MB
Hash-ram.
The level is 60/60.

Now explain to me. This is my first game with Fritz5 today. Why do I
always get these shit games with Fritz5 and
your Fritz5 plays like the swedish fritz5 ??

[Event "60/60  k6/200"]
[Site "manual at mclane's sweet-home"]
[Date "1997.03.03"]
[Round "1"]
[White "AMATEUR prg"]
[Black "Fritz5 41MB hash"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C11"]
[Annotator "fritz5"]
[PlyCount "88"]

{41984kB, f5book.ctg
} 1. e4 {0} 1... e6 {0} 2. d4 {6} 2... d5 {0} 3. Nc3 {5}
3... Nf6 {0} 4. e5 {5} 4... Nfd7 {0} 5. f4 {5} 5... c5 {0} 6. Nf3 {5}
6... Nc6
{0} 7. Be3 {6} 7... Qb6 {0} 8. Na4 {8} 8... Qa5+ {0} 9. c3 {9} 9... c4
{0} 10.
b4 {5} 10... Qc7 {0} 11. Be2 {6} 11... Be7 {0} 12. Nb2 {6} 12... O-O
{0.09/7 55
} 13. O-O {111} 13... a6 {0.16/12 0} 14. Qc2 {178} 14... Re8 {0.09/12 0}
15.
Ng5 {85} 15... Nf8 {0.03/11 53} 16. Bh5 {23} 16... Ng6 {0.13/11 102} 17.
Rf3 {
84} 17... Rf8 {0.31/10 67} 18. Rh3 {66} 18... Bxg5 {0.31/11 0} 19. fxg5
{92}
19... b5 {0.38/11 13} 20. Qf2 {128} 20... Nce7 {0.34/11 64} 21. Bxg6
{11} 21...
Nxg6 {-0.09/11 15} 22. Qf3 {63} 22... Rd8 {0.28/13 46} 23. Qh5 {88}
23... Nf8 {
0.56/13 8} 24. a4 {64} 24... Bb7 {0.28/12 113} 25. Rf3 {10} 25... Re8 {
0.28/12 78} 26. Raf1 {153} 26... Re7 {0.34/13 0} 27. Bd2 {68} 27... a5 {
0.16/12 74} 28. axb5 {83} 28... axb4 {0.13/12 100} 29. cxb4 {17} 29...
Ng6 {
0.13/11 61} 30. Rh3 {8} 30... Nf8 {0.34/13 109} 31. Bc3 {10} 31... Qb6 {
0.00/13 60} 32. Rhf3 {78} 32... Ng6 {0.00/14 2} 33. Nd1 {66} 33... Qxb5
{
0.00/15 122} 34. Ne3 {8} 34... Bc6 {-0.03/12 121} 35. Ng4 {82} 35...
Rea7 {
1.78/11 77} 36. Rh3 {98} 36... Kf8 {3.34/12 8} 37. Qxh7 {114} 37... Ke7
{
3.00/13 10} 38. Qxg7 {87} 38... Be8 {3.03/12 3} 39. Nh6 {32} 39... Kd8 {
3.88/12 66} 40. Nxf7+ {80} 40... Bxf7 {4.44/13 18} 41. Rxf7 {54} 41...
Rxf7 {
4.88/13 67} 42. Qxf7 {150} 42... Qe8 {7.38/13 0} 43. Qg7 {26} 43... Ra3
{
4.34/13 118} 44. b5 {10} 44... Ne7 {4.44/14 108} 1-0


What am I doing wrong ? Is fritz not able to win against an amateur
program (no - it is not chess-tiger !) ?
Lucky punch ?

Moritz. I will continue playing more games, but if this trend continues
i will not speak anymore with you.
Fritz5 - the cheapest program of the year.

Now you will say I have manipulated. You will say I have only seen ONE
game and this is nothing.
Right. I will do more games. I do not manipulate.


Sunday I played a telephone game against Horst Benstein. He said he has
a 233 machine and will take Fritz5
because he has heard it is good in blitz and in ssdf-list.
I used another amateur program, my machines were not upgraded (in ram).
It was a 60/30 game. This is the way Fritz5 lost horrible.

[Event "60/30 k6/200"]
[Site "telephone game"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "1"]
[White "AMATEUR prg"]
[Black "Fritz5 horst benstein"]
[Result "1-0"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.d4 exd4 6.Qxd4 Qxd4 7.Nxd4
Bc5 8.Be3 Nf6 9.f3 O-O 10.Nc3 Bb4 11.Bf4 Bxc3+ 12.bxc3 Re8 13.Kf2 c5
14.Nb3 c4 15.Nd2 b5 16.Bxc7 Ra7 17.Bf4 Bd7 18.a4 bxa4 19.Nxc4 Rc8 20.Be3
Rac7 21.Nb6 Rxc3 22.Nxc8 Rxc2+ 23.Kg3 Rxc8 24.Rhc1 Rxc1 25.Rxc1 Ne8
26.Bc5 f6 27.Kf4 Kf7 28.Ke3 Ke6 29.f4 g6 30.g4 f5 31.Rd1 Bc6 32.gxf5+
gxf5 33.e5 Bd5 34.h4 Bc6 35.Rd8 Bd7 36.Kd4 h5 37.Rb8 Nc7 38.Rb6+ Kf7
39.Rb7 Ne6+ 40.Kd5 Nxc5 41.Kxc5 Ke7 42.Ra7 1-0

Horst has 233 Mhz, 64 MB ram. What was wrong there.
Again an exception ? Sure :-)

Come on. This program plays horrible senseless chess.
Look into the games and you see it yourself. Planless. Weak in tactics
and senseless.
Both amateur programs do arround 30.000 NPS on my k6/200 Mhz.

When will you accept this. Search depth CAN find quality or emulate
quality.
But normally search does only find stupid moves or forced mates.
But in my games your search programs do not find anything and they lose
anything.

Good night.

I believe your and the ssdf-results WHEN i have data that proves their
ideas.
In the moment I have data that proves MY ideas.

tuesday, 3h46 a.m.



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