Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 15:40:14 02/19/01
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On February 19, 2001 at 12:55:47, Günther Simon wrote: >On February 19, 2001 at 11:34:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On February 19, 2001 at 11:17:52, Chuck wrote: >> >>>On February 19, 2001 at 11:12:37, Christophe Theron wrote: >>> >>>>On February 19, 2001 at 07:44:30, John Wentworth wrote: >>>> >>>>>This is just an observance and may be completely wrong, but it seems that when a >>>>>program castles Queen side his chances of losing go up by a lot. Every time I >>>>>see a program do this, I say to myself he's going to lose and I bet more than >>>>>60% of the time he does. This may be a problem with humans vs humans as well, I >>>>>don't know. Anyone else notice this? >>>> >>>> >>>>I think you are right. >>>> >>>> >>>> Christophe >>> >>>I wonder if this a problem with queen-side castling or castling opposite (one >>>side castled short, one castled long)? >>> >>>Chuck >> >> >>It is a problem of the following: >> >>1. not recognizing king safety and the danger of a pawn storm until it is >>too late; >> >>2. not knowing how to attack the opponent, because when you castle to opposite >>sides, it becomes a race to see who draws the first blood. If you don't know >>how to break the position open (and I have not seen any programs do this very >>well) then while the program fiddles, Rome burns. >> >>3. castling opposite is a direct challenge. Quite often the human will have >>his pieces positioned to support his attack, while the program's pieces are >>positions improperly to attack or defend. The time lost repositioning them >>leads to trouble. > >Do you mean that yet no program evaluates king safety in a long castled >position? > >Günther No. I mean they don't evaluate king safety very well _anywhere_. With opposite castling, the danger is simply much higher as the opponent can attack without weakening _his_ king safety. When both are on the same wing, it is possible to "self-attack" by getting too aggressive and opening things up against yourself as well as on your opponent. I call this "self-immolation". :)
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