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Subject: Re: Updating engines during tournaments? (Odyssee Tournament)

Author: Chessfun

Date: 13:36:32 03/05/01

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On March 05, 2001 at 16:08:48, Andreas Schwartmann wrote:

>On March 04, 2001 at 11:51:18, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On March 04, 2001 at 10:36:15, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>
>>>Die B.27 ist okay, unterscheidet sich kaum von der Paderborn-Version.
>>>Gruss, Uli
>>
>>
>>brilliant. i ask because i don't want that anybody feels disadvantaged.
>>if anybody thinks he has a better version he is allowed to upgrade
>>between the rounds.
>
>
>And that's completely rubbish. If you update engines between rounds, what use is
>the outcome of such a tournament? There is no consistency in this tourney! An
>updated engine is a DIFFERENT engine, so you might as well not call it a tourney
>but a set of engine matches. Hell, you might even start such a "tourney" with
>Fritz 1 and end up with Fritz 7 ... and what would this say about Fritz's
>playing strength? He started weak but ended up the winner nontheless? Har har.
>In my opinon, the engine version that started the tournament should be the very
>engine that ends it. No changing of horses in midstream or else the results get
>worthless!
>
>Imagine Linares ... Kasparov gets bored in midtourney and gets exchanges by
>Kramnik ... Shirov does not play to good, so he sends in his brother (does he
>have one?) ... but that would not be a tourney anymore. Just like your Odyssee
>with updated engines is no tourney in my opinion.
>
>Just my $0.02.
>
>Any comments?
>
>Andreas
>
>
>
>www.andreas-schwartmann.de


I agree totally.
If a version don't play so well and is awaiting a patch like the CM8K
issue with it's time control issues, then so what. As long as the final
statement on participants reflects the actual version playing. What can be
the point of a tourney with 1/2 the games played by different engines.

This is not the first time this happens in Thorsten's tourneys. As I
recall same thing last year. If you want to play and allow updated engines,
I think that's fine as your own basement tourney, but not to publish and expect
people to trust what you are posting.

That's my dime.

Sarah.



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