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Subject: Re: Updating engines during tournaments? (Odyssee Tournament)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:24:07 03/06/01

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On March 06, 2001 at 22:52:43, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On March 06, 2001 at 22:45:11, Chessfun wrote:
>[snip]
>>This question now though about Enrique's the WMCCC and Thorsten's tournaments
>>ignores your earlier statement which is what I originally responded to about the
>>SSDF. That their results are more representative of the user product plus
>>my previous statement that there never was any proof that anything irregular
>>happened.
>
>About the autoplayer mess:
>
>It has never been demonstrated that there was an ill intent.  Probably just a
>simple misunderstanding about efficient use of the protocol.
>
>However, that screwy instruction sequences are sent is easily demonstrated and
>well known.  Praticularly onerous is clearing of results for every move.


This is the _wrong_ autoplayer controversey.  Several years ago, a version
of Fritz (If I recall correctly) was shipped to the general public, and then
a _different_ version with a built-in autoplayer was shipped to the SSDF.  No
users had access to this version to see if it behaved mischieviously or not.
Or even if the 'engine' part was identical in both versions or not...

There was a lot of discussion...  not much meat however...

As far as the SSDF goes, does a one year old + version of Crafty really show
how the program plays _today_??  Maybe you can change versions too quickly.
And maybe you can change them way too slowly as well.  Particularly in the case
of my program where I don't have or release what I would call a "gold standard"
version, ever...



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