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Subject: Re: Why Deep Fritz vs Shredder 5? (Why not Deep Shredder?)NT

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 02:26:24 03/12/01

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On March 11, 2001 at 21:30:24, James T. Walker wrote:

>On March 11, 2001 at 20:37:34, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On March 11, 2001 at 18:15:41, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>
>>>On March 11, 2001 at 17:31:29, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 11, 2001 at 14:59:11, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 11, 2001 at 14:19:05, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 11, 2001 at 11:46:26, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>:-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually I had written a while back about whether like Deep Fritz
>>>>>>Deep Shredder was better on a single processor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think to my best recall Enrique wrote that was not the case.
>>>>>
>>>>>Did I? I think that on a single processor machine Deep Shredder may be a bit
>>>>>better than Shredder 5, but nothing to write home about.
>>>>>
>>>>>Enrique
>>>>>
>>>>>>Andreas suggested the match-up of Deep Fritz v Shredder 5 so that
>>>>>>was what we played.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>
>>>>When I first loaded Deep Shredder I ran some test (took all of 15 minutes).  In
>>>>a couple of middle game positions the depth/KNps/eval were almost exactly the
>>>>same.  In a couple of endgame positions the moves were different with different
>>>>times and different evals so I suspect the endgame has been changed/improved
>>>>slightlty.  All this in 15 minutes!  :-)
>>>>Jim
>>>
>>>That's very good! :)
>>>
>>>Now try this with both and tell me which one sees first the Trojan horse in
>>>action.
>>>
>>>[D]rnbq2k1/p1r2p1p/1p1p1Pp1/1BpPn1N1/P7/2P5/6PP/R1B1QRK1 w
>>>
>>>Enrique
>>
>>Hello Enrique,
>>I'm afraid you'll have to explain that to me.  Give me the winning move/line.
>>Jim
>
>Hello Enrique,
>If you are talking about Nxh7 then I guess there is a slight difference in the
>two programs.  Shredder 5 took 30:33 (15.05 ply) and Deep Shredder took 1:04
>(12.05 ply).  :-)

Yes, Nxh7 is the move. Trojan horses and some endings are the improvements of
Deep Shredder over Shredder 5, aside from the SMP stuff, of course.

Enrique

>Up to 12.01 ply the score was the same and the time was within 2 seconds but
>after Deep Shredder found Nxh7 the speed through the plies slowed a lot.
>Jim



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