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Subject: Re: G-Tiger 2 vs Programs is almost ready to start !

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:16:06 03/17/01

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On March 17, 2001 at 11:58:21, jonas cohonas wrote:

>On March 17, 2001 at 10:54:20, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On March 17, 2001 at 09:29:28, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On March 17, 2001 at 09:07:20, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>You will very soon be able to test your Programs against Gambit Tiger 2 at this
>>>>website as soon as I recieve the first move from Ed Panek. We are almost
>>>>deciding on the time control and deadline to submit your move. As you can all
>>>>see the plan and website is progressing rapidly, this is the Email that I sent
>>>>to Mr Ed Schroder.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.rebel.nl/gt2-web.htm
>>>>
>>>>Mr Ed Schroder you can start the match as soon as possible, a move per day sound
>>>>right to me if ED has agreed with the time control as well.  You can start
>>>>announcing the website on the CCC, your website, and Gambitsoft as well. This
>>>>day per move will allow people from different time zones to be able to
>>>>participate. Every day I will send you and Ed the selected move, and as soon as
>>>>he send us his reply you upgrade the position and make it available to the
>>>>viewer. The time control should be 60 Minutes per move, but one day to reply as
>>>>the dead line.
>>>>
>>>>Jorge Pichard
>>>
>>>In this case Gambittiger is probably not going to win.
>>>
>>>I believe that Deep Fritz(12 hours per move) is better than Gambit2(1 hour per
>>>move) and it is enough that one of the memebers with Deep Fritz post analysis of
>>>Deep Fritz after every move when the majority vote for Deep Fritz's move to get
>>>a game between Deep Fritz(12 hours per move) and Gambit2(1 hour per move)
>>>
>>>I think that if you want equal chances then it is better to give Gambit2 more
>>>time.
>>>
>>>I prefer to see
>>>Gambit(48 hours per move) against CCC(24 hours per move)
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Uri you are correct there might be people who will be using DF or Deep Shredder
>>for at least 12 hours. I wrote to Ed this Email:
>>
>>Ed I believe that Mr Schroder want to use GTiger-2  1 move every 24 Hours which
>>is fine, since some people will be using Deep Fritz probably for more than 12
>>hours, but I doubt that they will be using DF or Deep Shredder for more than 12
>>Hours. Since it doesn't matter in the opening which Gambit version you use, it
>>is fine if you start by using GTiger 1 and as soon as Mr Ed Schroder send you
>>the GTiger 2 patch, just before Move 5 I hope than you can continue using GT 2.
>>
>>Jorge Pichard
>
>I think that at one hour per move Deep Fritz will be as strong as GT2, so i
>think that 24 hours for GT2 will be a good idea, so equal time in all cases
>no matter what program the ccc members are using, given the fact that there will
>be a lot of different programs on high powered cpu's.
>
>I will be using Gandalf_432h on a 1.3ghz T-bird, Gandalf is believed to be the
>strongest correspondense prog.

This is your belief and not mine.

Gandalf is one of the best programs at all time controls but I do not believe
that it is better than Deep Fritz at correspondence games.

It will be interesting if people can post the analysis of the programs after
many hours.

I mean not only to the last main line but also to the previous main
lines,depthes and times.

We can do a comparison of the branching factor of different chess programs at
long time control.

smaller branching factor does not prove that the program is better but some
people believe that smaller branching factor suggest that the program is better
at long time control(Christophe believes that Genius is bad at long time control
because of big branching factor when I believe that the reason is that Genius
has not enough extensions)

Uri



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