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Subject: Re: G-Tiger 2 vs Programs is almost ready to start !

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 12:26:48 03/17/01

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On March 17, 2001 at 15:13:09, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 17, 2001 at 15:07:22, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On March 17, 2001 at 14:46:08, Ed Panek wrote:
>>
>>>On March 17, 2001 at 13:27:20, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 17, 2001 at 12:58:08, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 17, 2001 at 09:36:49, Ed Panek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 17, 2001 at 09:07:20, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You will very soon be able to test your Programs against Gambit Tiger 2 at this
>>>>>>>website as soon as I recieve the first move from Ed Panek. We are almost
>>>>>>>deciding on the time control and deadline to submit your move. As you can all
>>>>>>>see the plan and website is progressing rapidly, this is the Email that I sent
>>>>>>>to Mr Ed Schroder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.rebel.nl/gt2-web.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mr Ed Schroder you can start the match as soon as possible, a move per day sound
>>>>>>>right to me if ED has agreed with the time control as well.  You can start
>>>>>>>announcing the website on the CCC, your website, and Gambitsoft as well. This
>>>>>>>day per move will allow people from different time zones to be able to
>>>>>>>participate. Every day I will send you and Ed the selected move, and as soon as
>>>>>>>he send us his reply you upgrade the position and make it available to the
>>>>>>>viewer. The time control should be 60 Minutes per move, but one day to reply as
>>>>>>>the dead line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AS of yet I still have not received Gtifger 2 either by email or other:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I will have no problem using gtiger 1 if youd like.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed, I will send you Gambit Tiger 2.0 (beta-4) during the weekend. I see that
>>>>>you already have started :) but I would like to know the exact stipulations
>>>>>the 2 of you have agreed on:
>>>>>
>>>>>- Time control Gambit Tiger 2 (1 hour per move?)
>>>>>
>>>>>- The Internet (24 hours a move?)
>>>>>
>>>>>That is what I read above, is it final?
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>This is what we agreed on the last mail that I sent him.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ed I believe that Mr Schroder want to us to use GTiger-2  1 move every 24 Hours
>>>>which is fine, since some people will be using Deep Fritz probably for more than
>>>>12 hours, but I doubt that they will be using DF or Deep Shredder for more than
>>>>12 Hours. Since it doesn't matter in the opening plus what Gambit version you
>>>>use, it is fine if you start by using GTiger 1 and as soon as Mr Ed Schroder
>>>>send you the GTiger 2 patch, just before the end of the opening, you can
>>>>continue using GT 2.
>>>>
>>>>Jorge Pichard
>>>
>>>
>>>Jorge,
>>>
>>>Let me get this straight..you only want to Gtiger 2.0 to analyze for a total of
>>>1 hour? I suppose that means no pondering inbetween moves? I have the ability to
>>>just let the computer think for 24 hours a shot if you like....I dont know 24-1
>>>time compression seems a bit unfair despite how awesome gtiger is :)
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>
>>Ed use Gtiger 2 for 24 hours shot as soon as the opening stage is over, right
>>now it really doesn't matter, as I mentioned before there are people who will
>>let Deep Fritz, Deep Shredder, Shredder 5 and Gandalf 4.32h for over 12 hours
>>and more as soon as the opening stage is over. I really don't think that any
>>time over 12 hours per move will benefit any program at all, since they will
>>reach there maximum ply in approximately 12 hours.
>
>I disagree.
>
>In my analysis of my correspondence games there was a case when Deep Fritz
>changed it's mind after more than 22 hours on PIII800(64 mbytes hash tables).
>
>Uri

That is true I should have said that in 90% of the time most programs don't
change their evaluation of the best move after the first 12 hours, even thought
it happen more often with cpu less than <1000 GHz, but there is still that 10%
which could make a big difference. I remember that it happened to me too, when I
was analyzing a position with Fritz 6. after 16 hours it also changed it's mind,
I was using my AMD Athlon 800 MHz with 128 SDRAM.

Thanks Uri



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