Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 12:26:48 03/17/01
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On March 17, 2001 at 15:13:09, Uri Blass wrote: >On March 17, 2001 at 15:07:22, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On March 17, 2001 at 14:46:08, Ed Panek wrote: >> >>>On March 17, 2001 at 13:27:20, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>On March 17, 2001 at 12:58:08, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 17, 2001 at 09:36:49, Ed Panek wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On March 17, 2001 at 09:07:20, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>You will very soon be able to test your Programs against Gambit Tiger 2 at this >>>>>>>website as soon as I recieve the first move from Ed Panek. We are almost >>>>>>>deciding on the time control and deadline to submit your move. As you can all >>>>>>>see the plan and website is progressing rapidly, this is the Email that I sent >>>>>>>to Mr Ed Schroder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.rebel.nl/gt2-web.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Mr Ed Schroder you can start the match as soon as possible, a move per day sound >>>>>>>right to me if ED has agreed with the time control as well. You can start >>>>>>>announcing the website on the CCC, your website, and Gambitsoft as well. This >>>>>>>day per move will allow people from different time zones to be able to >>>>>>>participate. Every day I will send you and Ed the selected move, and as soon as >>>>>>>he send us his reply you upgrade the position and make it available to the >>>>>>>viewer. The time control should be 60 Minutes per move, but one day to reply as >>>>>>>the dead line. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>AS of yet I still have not received Gtifger 2 either by email or other:) >>>>>> >>>>>>I will have no problem using gtiger 1 if youd like. >>>>> >>>>>Ed, I will send you Gambit Tiger 2.0 (beta-4) during the weekend. I see that >>>>>you already have started :) but I would like to know the exact stipulations >>>>>the 2 of you have agreed on: >>>>> >>>>>- Time control Gambit Tiger 2 (1 hour per move?) >>>>> >>>>>- The Internet (24 hours a move?) >>>>> >>>>>That is what I read above, is it final? >>>>> >>>>>Ed >>>> >>>>This is what we agreed on the last mail that I sent him. >>>> >>>> >>>>Ed I believe that Mr Schroder want to us to use GTiger-2 1 move every 24 Hours >>>>which is fine, since some people will be using Deep Fritz probably for more than >>>>12 hours, but I doubt that they will be using DF or Deep Shredder for more than >>>>12 Hours. Since it doesn't matter in the opening plus what Gambit version you >>>>use, it is fine if you start by using GTiger 1 and as soon as Mr Ed Schroder >>>>send you the GTiger 2 patch, just before the end of the opening, you can >>>>continue using GT 2. >>>> >>>>Jorge Pichard >>> >>> >>>Jorge, >>> >>>Let me get this straight..you only want to Gtiger 2.0 to analyze for a total of >>>1 hour? I suppose that means no pondering inbetween moves? I have the ability to >>>just let the computer think for 24 hours a shot if you like....I dont know 24-1 >>>time compression seems a bit unfair despite how awesome gtiger is :) >>> >>>Ed >>> >> >>Ed use Gtiger 2 for 24 hours shot as soon as the opening stage is over, right >>now it really doesn't matter, as I mentioned before there are people who will >>let Deep Fritz, Deep Shredder, Shredder 5 and Gandalf 4.32h for over 12 hours >>and more as soon as the opening stage is over. I really don't think that any >>time over 12 hours per move will benefit any program at all, since they will >>reach there maximum ply in approximately 12 hours. > >I disagree. > >In my analysis of my correspondence games there was a case when Deep Fritz >changed it's mind after more than 22 hours on PIII800(64 mbytes hash tables). > >Uri That is true I should have said that in 90% of the time most programs don't change their evaluation of the best move after the first 12 hours, even thought it happen more often with cpu less than <1000 GHz, but there is still that 10% which could make a big difference. I remember that it happened to me too, when I was analyzing a position with Fritz 6. after 16 hours it also changed it's mind, I was using my AMD Athlon 800 MHz with 128 SDRAM. Thanks Uri
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