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Subject: Re: Re: chessbase

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 14:34:55 03/25/01

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On March 25, 2001 at 15:47:20, Richard Heldmann wrote:

Time to take the OT out of the subject line again .

>>These like similar statements make me wonder if this is some kind of religion .
>
>If you want to send me a donation, don't hesitate. ;)

:-)
>
>>
>>I own a few Chessbase programs and I like them ; I own some others , too , which
>>are also fine .
>
>I own Rebel Tiger II/Century 3, Rebel 10, Chessmaster 5k,6k,7k,8k, Fritz 6,
>Hiarcs 7.32, Shredder 5, and others and I like them all.  I believe the Fritz
>interface is the best.  Who has anything about halting the development of other
>chess programs?  I've merely made Chessbase a target, which is something they
>would rather not be.

I understand and agree to some extent ; which one is the best is a matter of
taste for sure . I like ChessPartner for it ICS interface and its WinBoard
adapter , I like Shredder for its useability , I think the Chessbase one is the
prettiest . Btw ; to my personal taste the best of them all is the one of the
soon to be released Bringer 1.8 which probably is most similar to a simplified
Shredder ; but as I also see a few very positive aspects in WinBoard it might
not be to your taste at all .

>
>>
>>I am not especially in favour of a situation where there is only one interface
>>left so I am not too happy with a Chessbase/Tiger but this is only an opinion .
>
>Agreed.
>
>>Statements like the above keep getting repeated several times by several users
>>until probably they get accepted as the simple truth .
>
>I don't believe members here are that simple.

Yes , I didn't phrase that correctly . It's more like : especially new members
seeking guidance about questions like : "Which chessprogram should I get ? "
might get confused . Their number is not big enough to be of any commercial
importance for  the companies involved but they definitely exist . So I simply
put a different opinion as I disagree .
>
>>
>>This is like Mr Irazoquoi claiming that Chessbase programs have been leading
>>everybody's list for 3 years now forgetting about CM6000, Hiarcs 7 and Tiger 12.
>>
>>Statement 1 : Best prices ? I think the Rebel 11 package or CM8000 have much
>>more reasonable prices . Also I am not in favour of this selling of things like
>>"Fritz Endgame Turbo" which every user can build for him/herself .
>
>I did not say 'best' price, I said best engines.  I said they are provided at an
>affordable price.

Well : best engines is probably about strength then ; I mentioned a few others
of similar or maybe even higher strength ( at time released at least ) .


>
>>Statement 2: Is this about the GUI ? Well , the GUI is fine . CM8000 and
>>ChessPartner or Shredder are fine , too . Every interface contains a few things
>>the others don't have . It's also obvious that the different companies learn
>>from each other and these functions are usually in the next version of the other
>>company , too , which is great for us users .
>
>Yes, it is about the GUI.
>
>>Statement 3 : Hmm , can't comment on this .
>>
>>pete

I think your opinion is probably very close to mine . I thought your 3 "block
phrases" sounded a little too biased ; I didn't mean to discuss them but instead
at late hour I simply wanted to make a little joke . As I took a religious
metaphor it was forseeable that I might be misunderstood which happened :-) .

Good night .

pete



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