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Subject: Re: Aufsess-tournament 98: Fritz5 comment

Author: Dirk Frickenschmidt

Date: 17:12:47 03/25/98

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On March 25, 1998 at 14:57:46, Thorsten Czub wrote:

Karsten Bauermeister had written:
>>>Fritz was
>>>playing with special, non-commerical Power-Books, provided by ChessBase
>>>especially for this tournament to the operator! So you can't compare
>>>them to the normal Power-Books.

Now your interpretation showed me that you still hope for some kind of
magical reason in form of a mysterious book as explanation for the
Fritz5 SSDF rating. :-)
So you wrote:

>:-))))))
>
>Aha ! The SPECIAL, NON-COMMERCIAL POWER-BOOKS, PROVIDED BY CHESSBASE
>
>E S P E C I A L L Y   FOR THIS TOURNAMENT !!!!!
>
>I can only smile when I read such a statement !! :-)))
>
>Do we need more DATA to understand what happened in sweden ?! :-)))

Not much indeed:
a) shurely no more pure allegations of the completely unsound Ossi
Weiner kind.

b) All we need is the simple question to Matthias Wuellenweber, soon as
he is back from his journey: did they send something else than the well
known powerbook to the SSDF. And he will simply anwer the question.

I fear I have to disappoint your needs before that, having heard that
Matthias already answered this question with a simple "No".

I propose you could just ask him yourself soon as he is back again.

>
>Thanks Karsten for these NON surprising information :-))

You are right: It really is not surprising at all to test book versions
during such tournaments. I'm only curious what *kind* of book this in my
eyes rather weak one has been...

I had written:
>>This, frankly, looks more like a "non-power" book than like a power-book
>>:-))),

And you answered:
>Maybe the tactics of USING a special book did not worked. It did not
>worked in Paris, and not in Aufsess.
>BTW: I don't see the Mchess-Advantage this big. Mchess does arround
>almost the same NPS on my machines...

I don't care too much for that. Just that 100 Mhz speed difference is
nearly a 50% speed advantage versus some of the other programs and thus
more than just a little bit...

>>And what did the Chessbase team want to achieve by using this kind of
>>book?
>
>Maybe they want to proof something WE dicsussed much earlier... :-)
No idea what you mean...


>>I just don't see any reason to give room to rumors Ossi Weiner has
>>introduced here without any evidence
>
>Your whole live you have never ever any evidence.

My whole life is full of evidence of any kind as well as of non-evident
things.
Apodictic sentences like this above are nonsense by definition.

>You all overestimate the degree of EVIDENCE in a normal human life.
No.
It just helps considerably to reduce or at least be able to critisize
the output of pure rumors and wrong allegations - among others... :-)


If Ossi Weiner or you had oberserved something strange like "in game x
of the published SSDF-games Fritz5 played something completely else than
I can find in its commercial book/powerbook", and then told us about
such real observations, then there would be an argument to discuss.

Without that there is really *nothing* to discuss and even less to
allude to -
unless you are in business in the way Ossi Weiner is known for since
many years. :-)

I'm lucky to remember his kind of advertising and placing of welcome
opinions back to the times of the fights between Mr. Reckwitz from
Fidelity and him, *both* not showing too much of what I would call
sportsmanship then, but one of them handling it even more disgustful
than the other from my point of view. Decide for yourself, whom I may
think of... ;-)

Just to put it clear:
I don't mind if you try to find out the truth you are searching for:
this is always the best thing to do and I am on your side if you do this
- no matter what comes out for Fritz5 or any other chess program.

But this will only work based on evidence (which you consider not so
important), nothing else...
You are no BLOED-Zeitung or rainbow press journalist, and I can hardly
imagine it will ever be your aim to turn into one... :-)

So let's just wait for the facts and interpret these instead of rumors.

By the way: I will not be able to read your no doubt heavy reply ;-) too
soon, because I will be offline until Easter Saturday.

Then we will exchange arguments and smileys again as much as you wish...

Yours Dirk



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