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Subject: Re: Deeper Blue v Kramnik in October?

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 09:36:31 04/05/01

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On April 05, 2001 at 10:52:15, Graham Laight wrote:

>On April 05, 2001 at 10:30:34, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On April 05, 2001 at 10:21:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 05, 2001 at 09:56:57, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>
>>>>I apologise if this has already been discussed and I missed it, but I spoke to
>>>>GM Daniel King (author of "Kasparov V Deeper Blue") on Wednesday, and he told me
>>>>that there was a real possibility that DB might be resurrected to play Kramnik.
>>>>Do any of you guys know anything about this, please?
>>>
>>>I do not know but I think that there should be a competition for the computer
>>>that is going to play against kramnik.
>>>
>>>People are not sure if Deeper blue is stronger than other programs at 2 hours/40
>>>moves.
>>>
>>>I suggest to invite the following participants:
>>>1)Deep Fritz
>>>2)Deep Junior
>>>3)Tiger
>>>4)Rebel
>>>5)Dark thought
>>>6)Crafty
>>>7)Deep Shredder
>>>8)Ferret
>>>9)Gandalf
>>>10)Deeper blue
>>>
>>>The winner of the tournament should play against one of the strongest player
>>>that is not kramnik(Shirov or Anand or Kasparov are candidates) and only after
>>>it wins the match if it wins it should play kramnik.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>This is a good idea.  This way, no doubt about the strongest program, and no
>>doubt about results from playing human runner up and then Krammik if the
>>computer is victorious.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson
>
>Unfortunately, I disagree.
>
>1. The more requirements you add in to this prospective match, the less likely
>that it will ever happen.
>

Good point.  I just hope Kramnik agrees to play any of the programs.  :)

>2. The best computer at beating other computers is not necessarily the best
>computer at beating humans. Look how well Crafty is doing against humans right
>now with its anti-stonewall attack code. But for the WMCCC 2000, this code was
>removed.
>
>-g

I know that DJ has a performance of over 2702 against Top GM's (avg rating of
2702 over 9 games) including Kramnik (DJ lost one game to Kramnik).  DF has a
performance rating of 2635 againt GM's (avg rating 2555 over 10 games).  Deeper
Blue has a performance rating of 2862 against one super GM (Kasparov, rated 2795
over 6 games).  Thats 25 games for these 3 programs, so there is a track record
I can reference.

I would like to see how Crafty does against a GM at 40/2.  I am always looking
for more prog vs GM games at 40/2.  Crafty has done very well on the servers at
fast (less than 40/2) time controls.  I have no 40/2 games against GM players
for Crafty, thus I find it difficult to discuss how Crafty might do.  You could
be right, I just have not seen any games.  :)

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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