Author: Uri Blass
Date: 10:35:51 04/06/01
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On April 06, 2001 at 12:34:57, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On April 06, 2001 at 11:49:27, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: > >>Since nobody is posting wins of my program, I mayself have to do it. -:) >> >>Having got curious on Gambit Tiger, I have made 2 consecutive games on FICS, >>comet even running on a bit inferior hardware (700 MHZ - 1 GHz, time control is >>4+6.) >>The games below demonstrate the high risk of gambit tiger's playing style. I can >>hardly imagine a top engine giving this good chances to a middle class freeware >>program. >> >>The games ended 1.5 - 0.5 for comet, where tiger rather luckily escaped into a >>drawn ending in 2nd game. >> >>These 2 games do of course not imply that comet is stronger. I'm sure, that the >>ship will sink in a multi-game match. However, they do demonstrate that far >>weaker opponents have a unexpectedly good chance against due to tiger's risky >>playing style. >> >>I personally doubt that the gambit version of the program can do better than the >>usual tiger against computer opponents. >> >>Regards, Uli > >i cannot speak for gambit-tiger2 so far, >but i can guaranty you that for gambit-tiger1 in relation to rebel-tiger13 >the success is on gambit-tigers side. > >i think the explanation is easy ! > >gambit-tiger will lose a few games due to risky style. >but it will not lose as much games due to doing nothing as >rebel-tiger13 will do. > >if you have 2 similar programs, and the one is more agressive, >the more aggressive will IMO make a better score over all. > >if you have a strong chess program, that is not trying to get the initiative >or is doing almost nothing than waiting for opponent mistakes, >it will not be very strong. > >the reason fritz and junior do get high scores in schweden is not because these >programs DO something. but because of book-learning effects and >outsearching the opponent. What is the reason that Deep Fritz is winning against Shredder in 2 hours per move See http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?162134 It cannot be book learning because the programs did not play at this time control before and outsearching is part of the game. I believe that stefan is very good in opening preperation because Deep Fritz never wins shredder when stefan is the operator when Fritz can win Shredder when stefan is not involved(This is not only Deep Fritz against Shredder5 and Fritz6 won against shredder4 also in your last tournament and in the israeli league). Uri
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