Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 12:26:43 04/06/01
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On April 06, 2001 at 14:12:37, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>...
>>i cannot speak for gambit-tiger2 so far,
>>but i can guaranty you that for gambit-tiger1 in relation to rebel-tiger13
>>the success is on gambit-tigers side.
>>
>>i think the explanation is easy !
>>
>>gambit-tiger will lose a few games due to risky style.
>>but it will not lose as much games due to doing nothing as
>>rebel-tiger13 will do.
>>
>>if you have 2 similar programs, and the one is more agressive,
>>the more aggressive will IMO make a better score over all.
>
>Not necessarily. In case the attack is unsound, then the attacker will be
>punished.
>
>>
>>if you have a strong chess program, that is not trying to get the initiative
>>or is doing almost nothing than waiting for opponent mistakes,
>>it will not be very strong.
>>
>>the reason fritz and junior do get high scores in schweden is not because these
>>programs DO something. but because of book-learning effects and
>>outsearching the opponent.
>>but if they would have to play against itself, and ONE engine would be
>>a little more DOING something, the one that tries to get the initiative
>>would IMO win.
>
>It's not just SOMETHING. Life's not that easy. You have to do a reasonable
>thing.
>In some cases it might be better to wait for a mistake of the opponent than
>starting an unsound attack.
>
>I'm speaking very generally here (not about Gambit Tiger who has proven several
>times the success of its play).
You are right Uli, but by doing this (waiting for the mistake) you are just
going to repeat two decades of computer chess history.
Genius for example is a great program, and I would be proud if I had written it,
but somebody else has done it already.
We are the new generation and we must move forward. Users are not impressed
anymore by solid but boring playing style and want something else.
All the difficulty in Gambit Tiger is to play successful agressive moves. That's
not that easy, as the games you have posted pointed out.
But that's the direction I have taken. I have to live with both the
congratulations about Gambit's playing style, and also with the humiliating
losses that Gambit has to face because of its playing style.
I believe that eventually the Gambit approach will win. A program with more
knowledge about king attacks will very often surprise the old generation
programs.
Christophe
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