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Subject: Re: If you want to solve one mate...

Author: leonid

Date: 13:10:03 04/14/01

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On April 14, 2001 at 11:25:53, Paul wrote:

>On April 14, 2001 at 10:37:06, leonid wrote:
>
>>Hello!
>>
>>If you like to solve one mate (or if you want to selebrate Passover by
>>crucifying your solfware) then this position is just for you:
>>
>>[D]1qRr2bk/Q1P1q1bq/4Qn1N/3qq1Qn/KRQ1Qq1N/B2B4/6Qq/2q3r1 w - -
>>
>>Please, indicate your result.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Leonid.
>
>The first thing Pretz says is this (mate in 13):
>
>11:34 WM13 10 Qxg8+ Qhxg8 Ng6+ Kh7 Nxe5+ Kh8 Ng6+ Kh7 Nxe7+ Kh8 Qh7+ Qxh7
>cxd8=Q+ Ne8 Qxe8+ Bf8 Qad4+ Qbe5 Qdxe5+ Qfxe5 Qxf8+ Qhg8 Qfxg8+ Qxg8 Rxg8#
>
>Will try some different extensions later ...

I hope so. I know that this position look like very deep. Mine found mate in 13
but I was not able to solve it by brute force in order to know shortest mate. In
9 moves there is no mate for sure. I went even to search for 10 moves, since
branching factor happened to be good for brute force. But when 10 moves took
more then 1 hour, I left search. I needed computer. Also I saw that branching
factor became bad for 10 moves. Expected time for 10 moves was 45 minutes. I
waited already for 1 hour. Maybe somebody with better selective search, or
better branching factor, for brute force, will reach mate below 13. I am curious
to know what is shortest mate here.

Salut,
Leonid.

>Groetjes,
>Paul



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