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Subject: The computer world champion is Shredder

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 01:35:44 04/17/01

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This is yet another insult to Stefan Meyer-Kahlen.

What is going on here is that many people don't recognize the legitimacy of the
titles that Stefan's program has won over the years, and refuse to grant him the
leadership position that he has earned in fair and open competition.

In late 1998 or early 1999, I remember reading a post about how someone had
played a blitz tournament with a bunch of computer chess programs, and that
Fritz had won, and he was declaring Fritz to be world computer blitz champion.

I pointed out that there was a world computer blitz champion ("speed chess",
whatever) at that time, and that it was my program.

This fellow suggested a "reunification" match between my program and Fritz, in
order to conjoin the legitimate ICCA title, and his basement title.  I explained
to him that my program had already beaten Fritz in the real world championship a
few months prior, and that I saw no need to have to beat it twice in order to
somehow make my title more "legitimate".

The same thing is going on here.  Nobody would insult Kramnik by suggesting that
he do some sort of play-off with other humans to see which human has the right
to face the machine -- Kramnik is champion so he has the right.

Likewise, Shredder is champion so it has the same right.  No matter how many of
you guys want the world to revolve around Chessbase, Chessbase has not been able
to pull the trigger at a world championship for some time.  Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
has beaten the hell out of everyone repeatedly.

The ICCA title is a legitimate world title.  This is even true if a Chessbase
program does not win, and it is true even if the top program on the Swedish list
does not win.

The Swedish list is fine and dandy, but it is not the world championship.
Enrique and the Swedish list people cannot seize the world championship.  By
whose authority to become the computer chess sanctioning body?  We already have
one of these, and it's the ICCA.

Clearly, Shredder is world champion, and should be our representative.  It's an
insult to make it play off against two Chessbase programs when it has already
finished ahead of them in open competition.

And unless my memory is way off, some other program finished ahead of them at
the last WCCC, too.  Perhaps it is not strong enough to mention.

bruce



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