Author: Tanya Deborah
Date: 01:21:51 04/23/01
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On April 22, 2001 at 17:37:37, Ed Schröder wrote: >On April 22, 2001 at 16:18:00, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On April 22, 2001 at 15:46:43, Amir Ban wrote: >> >>>On April 22, 2001 at 12:26:25, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>I have received from the ICCA President David Levy a copy of an open letter >>>>concerning the Kramnik match. I agree with all the points of his proposal and I >>>>agree to participate in a qualifying match for the right to play Kramnik >>>>according to the terms of the ICCA. Below you will find a copy of this open >>>>letter. >>>> >>>>Best regards >>>> Stefan Meyer-Kahlen, author of Shredder >>>> >>> >>>The question is: Why aren't you playing ? As David Levy has stated in his letter >>>quite convincingly, all your problems that were posted here were solved, except >>>for two (short notice and division of match prize). I will get to those issues >>>later. >>> >>>He goes on, quite illogically, to propose something that you didn't even ask >>>for. If this was an attempt at mediation, it was unique in proposing a solution >>>that is more extreme than asked by one of the sides. Anyway I talked to Enrique >>>and he says this is quite impractical now, as there are agreements already >>>signed with Kramnik, contactual deadlines for starting, etc. >>> >>>Regarding match prize: I propose that David Levy will use his standing as ICCA >>>president and his skills as negotiator to get us better terms. We did our part >>>by saving you $5000 (unless you win), and by limiting the quite serious expenses >>>that, if you read the original agreement carefully, the challenger was committed >>>to (it has already been noted here that we are driven by greed!). >>> >>>Regarding short notice: It is short notice. All of us have to fall on existing >>>proven versions. I have one. Frans has one. You have one. No one has time to >>>finish developing anything. And after all, your claim for participation rests on >>>a version from '99, or 2000 at the latest. >>> >>>As Enrique wrote here, you have been reinvited under the terms you wanted, till >>>tomorrow, in which case the qualification will start Thursday. Quite feasible >>>logistically, and if logistics is the problem, say so and maybe something can be >>>arranged. >>> >>>Amir >> >> >> >>Really? >> >>I have been informed about the event only recently, I have asked for a small >>delay and all I have got is a NO answer. >> >>If something is arranged for Stefan then I do not see why it would not be >>arranged for me. >> >> >> >> Christophe > > >That is only softly speaking Christophe. A lot of other bad things happened >today in our talks with Enrique. I will prepare a page soon and I will make >sure it goes all over the Internet. I told you on beforehand it was my feeling >Enrique does not want you and after today my feelings are only confirmed. As >I told CCC some time ago discrimination of the worst kind. It is time to put >the naked facts on the table. Not that I like to do such a thing but I think >your program simply deserves it and I will fight for you. The injustice done >to you is simply amazing. > >I have sacrificed my own multi brainchild in favor for Tiger in the hope that >this would give some space but nothing really nothing seems to help. A wall >of granite was our reward. > >The current single cpu Tiger beats everything, even the available "Deeps" >something that impossibly can be ignored. A SMP Tiger has been offered and >the answer is still NO. This is unaccpetable. > >Ed Ed, I completely agree with you... I dont understand why Enrique is ignoring you and Christophe. It is a pity, and a total DISCRIMINATION!. I am very unhappy with this! :-( Tiger is clearly one of the best chess programs in the world, and we know that the new Tiger can win this event... Enrique, you has a lot of experience, and you know that TIGER is a real STRONG Challenger. Please try to think it well! The event will be MORE interesting if you agree that Tiger play. Can you please to explain us, why you do not want to include the SMP of Tiger?. Enrique, try to change your opinion. I wish you the best of of the best for the event! Regards Tanya Deborah. For Enrique In SPANISH... Enrique con todo respeto, yo creo que tanto Ed y Christophe tienen mucha razon. No es justo para ellos que la version SMP de Tiger sea descartada de el evento que estas por realizar, y el simple hecho de no ser tomados en cuenta cuando estan trabajando duramente por SMP de TIGER es algo muy injusto. El desechar del torneo a este gran programa de Christophe seria algo verdaderamente inaceptable, y muy poco deportista, y digo esto porque tu sabes perfectamente que Tiger es verdaderamente asombroso, con un estilo de juego diferente, y que es claramente de los mas fuertes programas del mundo. Es dificil saber cual programa seria el mejor para jugar contra Kramnik, por eso no veo nada de malo en aceptar como un tercer retador a Tiger. Si no hubiera buenas oportunidades de que Tiger pueda lograr el triunfo en el evento, no te lo estaria pidiendo, Tiger puede ganar, de eso no dudo. Tampoco dudo en la magnifica eleccion de haber escogido a Deep Fritz y Deep Junior!, ambos programas son increibles! y han tenido mucha popularidad atravez de muchos torneos en los que han participado. Pero te repito una y otra vez, TIGER esta a la misma altura de ellos, o inclusive sobre ellos. Por eso, si el BGN quiere estar segura de que Kramnik enfrentara al programa mas fuerte de el mundo tiene que estar incluido en el evento sin mas ni menos TIGER. Espero que al menos, puedas pensarlo bien y cambies de opinion. Y por el bien de toda actividad ajedrecista por computadora y como gran representante de la empresa BGN te deseo lo mejor de lo mejor en tu evento. Un gran saludo Enrique! Tanya Deborah.
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