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Subject: Re: chris account again deleted

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:38:08 04/25/01

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On April 25, 2001 at 02:37:28, Ed Schröder wrote:

>
>I did not know that Bruce, that makes it indeed more complicated.
>
>Thanks for informing me.
>
>Ed
>


In some respects, Chris reminds me of a young kid.  You tell them "don't
do that again, or else" and they remember it for a while.  But how long
a while is can vary.

Chris probably wants three things:

1.  Respect for what he has done.  He deserves that as does _anybody_ that
has actually written a viable chess engine.  In his case, oddball ideas made
his program unique and his interest in trying those ideas ought to be applauded.

2.  Contribute to discussions.  He can do this.  I have had good dialog with
him on many occasions.

3.  Further specific "causes".  He dislikes the ICCA.  He will take every
opportunity he gets to make negative remarks about the organization or its
officers/members.  This is nearly a "vendetta" of sorts.

4.  He likes controversy.  He will make statements intended to provoke
arguments.  just like some kids do...  "My dad can whip your dad..."

I don't think you can separate the two 'sides' of him, so that you get the
contributions, without the grief.  I'm pretty neutral myself, but I have been
involved in the "problem side of him" several times, once right after we formed
CCC.  So even though I am "neutral" my common sense tells me Bruce is right on
target.  The old "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" saying
comes to mind.  We've been fooled more than twice.  It does have to end at some
point...

I would suggest that the next group of moderators take this issue up, if they
feel like they have the time to put out the small fires that will erupt.

Another issue is Thorsten and Chris together.  One is like potassium, the other
is like water.  Pretty harmless apart, but together you get explosions.  They
sort of "feed" each other and the discussions with others escalates...  Which
is what "friends" do with each other of course.  But the overall effect can
cause some discussions to spiral out of control and right into the moderators'
laps...




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