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Subject: Re: solving conflicts (with a whip)

Author: leonid

Date: 07:27:56 04/28/01

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On April 27, 2001 at 09:23:00, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On April 27, 2001 at 05:56:23, Robert Raese wrote:
>
>>>individuality leads IMHO not to a better world, but to
>>>a capitalistic world.
>
>>ah, now i see... old testament vs. new testament... yes i am familiar with this
>>way of thinking, i have read much in the bible...  now i see better what you
>>were saying the other day about quality vs. quantity.
>
>people don't understand that LOVE+GOD and QUALITY is all the same, only in
>different degrees.
>The human body is capable to measure the relation between particles that
>are linked. whenever this happens you feel love.
>it's a kind of measuring the quality.
>we can only feel and love because the particles can do it too.
>what we call intuition and deja vu or synchronicity is in fact the
>relation between particles.
>
>
>> you identify "the world"
>>with materialism,
>
>the capitalistic world. you can of cource guess a few other concepts of
>societies. what jesus had in mind e.g. was not especially a capitalistic
>world.
>
>as you can imagine jesus would have had his problems if he would have met
>bill gates or other capitalists.
>i am sure if jesus would have seen our todays society, no matter if he would
>have lived in the USA or GERMANY or Netherlands or whereever, even in israel,
>he would have had major problems, and they would have put him into prison.


Not in prison! Not at all! In psychiatric institution. Man that was been
listening voices and is the "son of God". Who can be like this? Yesterday I make
my translation for one man in prison. I liked him very much but mainly his way
of speaking. Probably very soon I will have one chance more to listen to him
when he will meet specialist for psychiatric evaluation. This guy is more modest
in his talking that Christ but he mentioned many people that I can't even name
now. They are all alive and prominent. Only one small incident described by man
can give you some idea of who this man is. He was exactly inside of one nuclear
submarine when terrible incident happened on board. It was 2000 meters below the
surface. He managed somehow to brake porthole and reach surface. Single
survivor! Huge waves brought him to the shore of China where he was saved by one
brave man. For good 5 or 6 months this man kept him in hiding, bringing him
modest food and trained him to master karate. Yes... sorry! I am afraid to say
here anything more... This is top secret...

>> greed and self-centeredness, and "the spirit" with love,
>>unity, and quality.... but in those explanations you did not mention the
>>foundation to it all... GOD!  so i missed your deeper meaning by taking you for
>>a humanist. :)
>
>i am a human beeing. i am not sure if i would call myself a humanist.
>
>>ok.  "be in the world but not of the world"... don't sell your soul.
>>
>>i bet you like the story of jesus making a whip to drive the moneychangers from
>>the temple... why is this only time we see jesus angry?  why does he act out his
>>anger with violence?  why the whip?  even if it is only a story, i find it an
>>interesting story because it is so different from other portraits of jesus.
>>especially interesting to me is the detail of jesus making the whip himself.
>>thus, it was premeditated violence... yet it was righteous!?  remarkable.  i
>>notice jesus also says publicly that the pharisees are "vipers and whitewashed
>>tombs"... he wasn't making much peace THERE, was he?  :)
>>
>>do you have some thoughts on this?
>
>maybe via email.
>off topic here



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