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Subject: Re: Kramnik should represent the human kind with honor, not by cheating !

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:05:01 04/30/01

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On April 30, 2001 at 09:08:12, Christopher R. Dorr wrote:

>Why on earth do you accuse Kramnik of such nonsense as 'cheating',
>'opportunism', and 'unsportsmanlike behaviour'? Does Deep Junior (for example)
>get to play Kramnik before the match? No. But will it's managers have it analyze
>*every* game Kramnik ever played? OF course they will.

I doubt if they analyze every game but even if they do it it is their right and
other players who play kramnik also can analyze the same games.

 Are *they* cheating by
>using the program's unique strangths in a way that Kramnik himself does not
>have?

No.

 Will Deep Junior use an opening book far larger than any human could
>possibly ever remember? Is *this* cheating?

No.

 Will Deep Junior have access to
>tablebases that will enable it to play *prefectly* any of a set of endings,
>knowledge that no *human* could ever posess? To me, it is equally logical to
>suggest that DJ (or Deep Fritz, or whoever) forgo these advantages; after all,
>it would be the 'sporting' thing to do, no?

No.
By the same logic if I  play against human opponents with better memory than me
or opponents who learned more than me  about chess they have an unfair
advantage.

Being better is not unfair advantage.
Asking something that nobody asks before the match like getting the opponent is
asking to get an unfair advantage.

>
>Will playing the 'match' version of DJ give Kramnik a huge advantage over having
>to settle for 1000 games vs. the Commercial version? I don't think so.

I think that it is a huge advantage because the commercial version is clearly
different and have a clearly different evaluation function.

Kramnik may get 90% or 100% instead of getting 50% or 60% only because of this
fact.

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> I
>think it is inappropriate to cast aspersions on Kramnik's character (i.e.
>calling him a 'cheater')

I did not call him a cheater but I think that asking to get the program is an
unfair thing to do.

Uri



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