Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 16:50:20 04/30/01
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On April 30, 2001 at 14:23:39, Albert Silver wrote:
>On April 30, 2001 at 13:58:23, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On April 30, 2001 at 05:29:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 30, 2001 at 05:07:46, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 30, 2001 at 03:39:34, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 30, 2001 at 03:25:01, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 30, 2001 at 02:55:13, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The same applies for Nimzo, Hiarcs, Gandalf... Did Enrique ask them if they had
>>>>>>>a SMP version that could compete?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know the answer because Enrique told me in email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>HE DID NOT ASK THEM EITHER.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What other evidence do you need that the selection process has been arbitrary?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have an SMP program that has competed publicly and finished 2nd in the last
>>>>>>open hardware world championship, and they haven't even acknowledged my
>>>>>>existence as an author of something even vaguely worthy to play in this. So
>>>>>>you've been treated better than I have. They knew all about me and chose to
>>>>>>treat me as if I do not exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's water under the bridge though. They've insulted more or less everyone with
>>>>>>this selection process, it seems clear that they are set on doing it how they
>>>>>>want to do it, they got the result they wanted, and nothing is going to change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The biggest insult is to Stefan, who can't get any respect no matter how many
>>>>>>times he wins the WMCCC and WCCC.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stefan got something for winning WMCCC and WCCC.
>>>>>I believe that he sold more copies of his program thank to winning these
>>>>>copmpetition.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not see it as a clear thing that Shredder is the program that should be
>>>>>invited to a match against kramnik because there was no agreement before WCCC
>>>>>that the winner of the competition is going to be invited to play a match
>>>>>against kramnik.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Come on, at fisrt the match was presented as WC vs WC. Later it was changed
>>>>to best computer vs Kramnik and now even this info is also removed from the
>>>>BGN page.
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>
>>>It is at least good that they remove wrong information from the BGN page.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>
>>It does not matter if they remove that from their pages or not.
>>
>>How is it going to be perceived by the general audience?
>>
>>The general audience will think that it is best program against best chess
>>player. You do not even need to say it, that's what people are going to believe.
>>
>>People think: "it would not make any sense if the selected program was not the
>>best in the world, so this program must be the best of all".
>>
>>
>>That reminds me a study that has been done recently. When they were asked from
>>which country were coming the Nokia phones, a majority of american people
>>answered "from Japan". Because "Nokia" sounds like a japanese word to their
>>hears.
>>
>>Oops... Maybe you were also believing that Nokia is a japanese brand? Nokia is
>>from Finland.
>>
>>In France there is a chewing gum brand named "Hollywood". A majority of french
>>people believe it comes from the US. But it's a french brand.
>
>The pronunciation in the commercials is misleading too. Why would the French go
>to all the trouble of saying: "Holy woodge shooing gome" (show the commerical to
>an American and they'll confirm that's how it sounds) if they weren't forced to?
> :-)
I see you know what I am talking about. :)
Christophe
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