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Subject: Re: The Fritz5 discussion (Just interesting)

Author: Don Prohaska

Date: 10:31:27 04/09/98

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Anyone who has followed rgcc knows how Mats Winther got his results!



On April 09, 1998 at 11:32:33, Didzis Cirulis wrote:

>I am curious if there are many Fritzs out there? I tested both
>situations with Fritz I have and see what I got:
>
>On April 09, 1998 at 07:43:40, Mats Winther wrote:
>
>>Here are two examples (among many) of lousy play by Fritz5 in variations
>>investigated by me which I wanted to test. But the
>>results are useless as theoretical basis:
>>
>>
>>[Event "test game"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "1998.03.29"]
>>[White "THiarcs6"]
>>[Black "TFritz5"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>
>>1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 c6 4. f4 g6 5. Nf3 d5 6. e5 Nh5
>>{
>>1.  r n b q k b . r
>>2.  p p . . p p . p
>>3.  . . p . . . p .
>>4.  . . . p P . . n
>>5.  . . . P . P . .
>>6.  . . N . . N . .
>>7.  P P P . . . P P
>>8.  R . B Q K B . R
>>
>>    A B C D E F G H
>>
>>Fritz5 rates this position as completely equal (0.00) which
>>is ridiculous since black has no compensation for the space
>>deficit. Nevertheless black's position is very stable and he
>>can place the knight (not the bishop) on g7, play e6 and place
>>the bishop on e7. Then he can play on the queen wing. But
>>Fritz5 manages to loose this position in a couple of moves (on a
>>686/200+) - an amazing feat!}
>>7. Bd3 Bg7
>
>How did you manage Fritz to play 7. ...  Bg7?  My copy pondered over Bh6
>and then switched to Bf5 with more or less equal position. Never
>considered moving bishop to g7.
>
>8. f5 c5 9. dxc5 d4 10. Bb5+ Bd7 11. Qxd4 Nc6
>>12. Qe4 Bxf5 13. Bxc6+ bxc6 14. Qxc6+ {with a winning position}
>>1-0
>>
>
>
>>[Event "test game"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "1998.03.22"]
>>[White "THiarcs6"]
>>[Black "TFritz5"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>
>>1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 a6 5. e4 b5 6. e5 Nd5
>>7. a4 Nxc3 8. bxc3 Qd5 9. Be2 Bb7 10. 0-0 e6 11. Ne1 Qd7
>>12. Bf3 Nc6 13. Nc2 Rb8 14. Qe2 Be7 15. Rd1 0-0 {theory ends}
>>16. Bf4
>>{
>>1.  . r . . . r k .
>>2.  . b p q b p p p
>>3.  p . n . p . . .
>>4.  . p . . P . . .
>>5.  P . p P . B . .
>>6.  . . P . . B . .
>>7.  . . N . Q P P P
>>8.  R . . R . . K .
>>
>>    A B C D E F G H
>>}
>>16. ...Na5? ( 16. ...b4 {The King instead suggests this plausible
>>continuation which leads to equality. The King obviously has a
>>much better understanding of the position although its rating is lower.}
>
>And again "My" Fritz WAS looking to Na5 for a second, but then turned to
>play b4. In fact b4 was the only move suggested...
>
>Regards,
>
>Didzis Cirulis



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