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Subject: Re: PGN-file PART2: CSTal beats Fritz5.01 >50%

Author: Mark Young

Date: 13:44:59 04/13/98

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On April 12, 1998 at 08:01:26, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>>2. You may be getting funky results because you are running Fritz 5 on a
>>slow computer. It is possible that Fritz 5 may have a greater ratings
>>gain then other programs get from a faster cpu. You say that your
>>computer get about 180 knps to 200knps. I tested fritz on a much faster
>>computer. I am getting well over 100knps more in my testing. Since Fritz
>>is a searched base program this could explain alot. What do you think? I
>>have seen no other date about fritz 5 running on slow computers. Fritz 5
>>may be the best program running on the faster intel chips but not the
>>best on slower computers. If your results and my results are correct
>>there can be no other explaination.
>>
>>                                                           Mark Young.
>
>As Fritz5.01 gets the same machine CSTal gets, I do not sleep badly
>about this.
>Whatever machine I use, CSTal gets the same.
>If the ssdf-guys use P90 instead of P200, it would be also fair if BOTH
>programs would get the same machine ?
>CSTal suffers also on a slow machine because it has problems in the
>tactically area of the game and could maybe outsearched.
>
>
>So - as an addition to my games so far I will present games Nimzo98
>(Paderborn version) vs. CSTal. Here CSTal wins playing on the
>auto232-autoplayer-device in much better scores than against Fritz5. No
>wonder. If it draws against Fritz5, and Nimzo98 is weaker, it should get
>better results.
>
>Nimzo98 is also a very fast and clever program. I will post the games as
>soon as the number is enough for a first view.
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Maybe I did not make my point clear. What I am saying is That Fritz 5
may be the best program on the faster chips out. Its fair the way you
tested, and fritz was not the best program you have seen. I tested fritz
on a P II 300 and it was the best program. So Fritz may not be the best
program for the slower chips but given the faster chip it is the best. I
also tested Nimzo 98 cm5000 Rebel(all versions) Mchess pro 7.1
genius(3,4,5) ect. ect. Fritz 5 tested the best out of all the programs
I have tested by far. All the programs were tested on the P II 300.

You tested Fritz 5 on a slower computer and you tested the other
programs on the same computer. You find the Fritz does not play well.
You see bad positional moves and just plain bad chess from fritz. I
don't see this in my testing at all. So I can only conclude from this
that Fritz is best on the faster chips. And the other programs are best
on the slower chips. Now thats with all things being equal. Fritz(fast
chip) vs program X(fast chip)=Fritz is the strongest program out.
Fritz(slower chip) vs Program X(slower chip)=Fritz sucks and plays ugly
and bad chess. It is possable for both to be true and would explain what
you and I have seen.



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