Author: Peter Berger
Date: 00:39:59 05/13/01
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On May 13, 2001 at 03:06:32, Christophe Theron wrote: > >But Ossi Weiner says that he is not forbidding the SSDF to list Shredder >anymore. So if you are ready to take the risk of not being listed in first >position by the SSDF, which is a little bit like taking the risk of breaking the >"World Champion" image, then why not play against Deep Fritz, which even in the >worst case (losing) is rewarded by worldwide publicity? You'll be seen as >second-best program in the world for millions of people, instead of being seen >as strongest program for a handful of people. And probably million of people >will not remember if you were beaten or not, will simply remember that Shredder >has played, that Shredder is at the very top, and will grab the Shredder package >as soon as they see it at the supermarket, throwing it without even looking at >the price in their caddies. > A very good point IMHO ( I don't know why , but most chessprograms are not availlable in supermarkets and computer shops in my country though ..). I did a little experiment several times ; I asked some ordinary people/chessplayers which chessprogram they know and estimate as a strong opponent . This experiment was done in Germany ( might make some difference ). A general trend : _Everyone_ knows Fritz ! Several know Genius and Deep Blue ; a few know Chessmaster . Most of the others are completely unknown . Those who have heard about Deep Blue tend to think it is pointless to play against computers anyway as they look up all the moves in some big databases and chess is solved . Just for fun a little example ;-) :my mother,father,sisters and my brother. My little sister knows only Fritz ( she bought a copy for training ) - she has heard about Chessmaster6000 , too ( Yahoo). My big sister knows about Chessmaster and Fritz ( she doesn't own a chessprogram but plays at Yahoo ;-))). My big brother knows Fritz, Deep Blue, Genius and "the talking worldchampion" ( not sure about this name ; it's some dumbed down Shredder version ) . My father knows Fritz and Deep Blue . My mother knows none of them :). I think Shredder is completely unknown to most potential buyers in the world ! Same with Tiger ( although I think this might change soon , the name is easy to remember ) . > >I fail to understand the logic behind Weiner's reasonning. > It seems that maybe this decision wasn't made by Mr Weiner . pete >And believe me, when you can see such a lack of logic in the behaviour of such a >smart guy, you can be sure that you are missing some bloody important part of >the information. > > > > > Christophe
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