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Subject: Re: From David Levy

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 13:36:51 05/15/01

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On May 15, 2001 at 13:21:50, Larry Proffer wrote:

>On May 15, 2001 at 12:53:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On May 15, 2001 at 11:49:56, Larry Proffer wrote:
>>
>>>On May 15, 2001 at 09:29:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 15, 2001 at 07:39:50, James Swafford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 15, 2001 at 06:12:51, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>1) World Micro will be in Maastricht, the Netherlands in August. Provisionally
>>>>>>Aug 19-23. Exact dates to be confirmed soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>Unfortunate (for me)... I was hoping to go to this one. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I agree. This is the kind of foolishness that is going to cause me to really
>>>>consider my ICCA membership the next time it runs out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Can't you get someone in Europe to operate Crafty for you?
>>>
>>>Or even travel out here on an aeroplane. We Europeans don't bite. Maastricht is
>>>a great and culturally deep city.
>>>
>>>Hey Bob, did you ever set foot outside the USA?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>Been outside the USA _many_ times.  But the issue is _cost_.  Why should
>>someone in North America have to pay travel across the ocean, year after
>>year, when the organization we founded 20+ years ago specifically addressed
>>this issue in the charter by saying the tournament will _alternate_ between
>>Europe and North America.
>>
>>At the university here, we don't do international travel except for very
>>good reasons.  Computer chess doesn't qualify.  I'm not willing to tell my
>>wife "Hey, our vacation is going to be to europe this summer, but we are
>>going to be stuck at a chess tournament for the week we are over there so I
>>can't travel very much.  I don't think she would buy that as a "vacation".
>>
>>I think it a bit funny to hold the event closer to the very ones that are
>>making money from the field, and basically excluding the rest, due to high
>>travel costs.
>
>Well you say so, but in practice you (personally) don't go anyway.

Maybe he would if it was in the US for once again in all this years, Bob would
tske part. But that is not the point, but it is: If an organisation has a rule,
it should try to live by it!

Torstein


>If I remember correctly you didn't go to the last non-European event which was
>in Jakarta on grounds of time. Not cost. The Indonesian Govt. (Dictatorship) was
>paying airfares and hotel bill and entertainment for that for all competitors
>(unless they were Israeli/jewish) - still you didn't go - someone else operated
>Crafty for you.
>
>So you don't go anyway. Actually I remember better, you said you couldn't take
>the week off since there were teaching committments you had.
>
>>
>>Just look at the sites used by the WCCC events through 1992 to see the
>>alternation.  There it stopped completely.
>>
>>BTW, my passport includes visits to England, France, Scotland, former USSR,
>>South America, Canada, Mexico, Australia, China and Japan, to name a few.
>>
>>:)



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