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Subject: Re: Is a third native concept important, questions for a new poll ?

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 18:38:38 05/16/01

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On May 16, 2001 at 20:43:57, Chessfun wrote:

>On May 16, 2001 at 14:50:31, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>On May 16, 2001 at 14:31:04, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>The Shredder GUI is not free and this is good, because we will for sell the
>>>strong UCI engines, because the programmers can get a little bit ...
>>
>>I don't understand your point. The program authors can still publish commercial
>>engines even if the GUI is free. SMK could in principle release the GUI as a
>>shell for chess engines without charge and release Shredder as an optional
>>engine for money.
>>
>>The purpose of the WinBoard editions initially was to release otherwise
>>unattainable WinBoard engines. The advantage for the consumer was the free
>>nature of the WinBoard GUI, so that the cost was purely engine related. That is
>>my preference, ie. sparing the consumer from buying a load of silly GUIs
>>everytime they want a new engine.
>>
>>Mogens.
>
>
>I have read this thread and am a little confused.
>If Millennium no longer exists in terms of marketing and selling
>Shredder. And Shredder along with SMK go elsewhere either Rebel
>or Chessbase, then isn't it likely that Shredder would be ported
>to run in that companies existing GUI?.
>
>Therefore without the Shredder GUI being free and the engines
>being sold separetely as you wrote above. Will not now UCI simply
>die?
>
>Or even were SMK to try to market and sell Shredder independantly
>unless he allowed the GUI to be free and sold the Shredder engine,
>then it too would certainly die.
>
>This whole Winboard Edition II is somewhat odd IMO as why would anyone
>who didn't own the Shredder GUI buy it?. And since you need the GUI
>to run the engines, where is the logic on it not being a free GUI.
>
>
>Sarah.


Hi Sarah,

the best way in this case is to wait of the official message about the GUI from
Stefan and the UCI protocol.

Free Shredder GUI:
In my opinion not a good idea.

If we have a free Shredder GUI is the marketing with strong engines not easy and
a firm cann`t give the programmers money for his work.

Example:
The Fritz GUI is free and the concept.
Marketing is then not easy !

So I think here also that it is a good idea to give the engine protocol free but
not the GUI.

But, I am not sure at the moment, about good marketing, protocols and other
things.

Best
Frank


Why Rebel and ChessBase ?
We have also Convekta and the Chessmaster team.

Convekta Software have more possibilitys compare to Schröder B.V. and
Chessmaster is also very strong.

Logic:
Logic is that all chess base engine products have the same GUI :-)
Logic is that we have CD without a GUI or maybe with GUI.
Logic is that the GUI from Chess-Base is not free also the Shredder GUI !

Logic that a men cann´t full understand a women in the complete live.



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