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Subject: Re: Cm6555 is definitely the strongest Chessmaster around.

Author: Jason Williamson

Date: 19:51:19 05/19/01

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On May 19, 2001 at 22:48:02, Eric Tom wrote:

>On May 19, 2001 at 22:24:21, John Dahlem wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 2001 at 21:51:18, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On May 19, 2001 at 21:28:25, Eric Tom wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 19, 2001 at 19:06:11, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 19, 2001 at 15:34:15, william penn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>i suspect that cm6555 would still score among the top three, even against the
>>>>>>best and newest programs. Cm8000 is a rip-off since there is a noticable
>>>>>>decrease in strength from the previous more strong version 6000
>>>>>
>>>>>On what do you base that?
>>>>>And is it stronger than 6000 or 7000?
>>>>>
>>>>>And if it is a rip off, can there be any compensation, or money-back?
>>>>>
>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>
>>>>Compensation?  Maybe the recent amazing personalities, such as CMUtzinger and
>>>>CMFun can compensate, I don't know.  I've recently fell in love with
>>>>CM8_Bendorz.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Eric
>>>
>>>A clear weakening of playing strength makes it questionable as an "upgrade" in
>>>my opinion.
>>>All other extras and improvements should NEVER be at the expense of playing
>>>strength, Unless specifically made clear. If it's simply not improved, that's
>>>also not so good, but if it is EVEN WEAKER, then patches must patch up atleast
>>>that!
>>>I don't know if any other program was that much weaker than TWO upgrades
>>>earlier!
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>
>>It's a _different_ engine, I don't know if they ever claimed it was stronger,
>>and if they didn't, there is no reason to even _think_ of compensation. If they
>>did, I personally still wouldn't feel cheated as long as the thing isn't some
>>random mover or something like that (they added features, that is enough to call
>>it a new version).  Also, I haven't seen any cm6000-cm8000 matches published,
>>and until someone does, I suggest everyone stop assuming 8000 is weaker than
>>6000 anyway.
>>
>>
>>John
>
>Well, on the box, it said that it has revamped the engine to make it play on
>grandmaster level...Anyway, I personally think that CM8000 is stronger than
>6000.  To me, it's the opening book's fault.  Maybe the book just fits CM6000's
>style and not CM8000.  Just my two cents.  Where are my two cents anyway?  Do
>you have them?!
>
>Regards,
>Eric


Ahh a sensible statement at last.  Yes the opening book is the single biggest
weakness that CM8000 has.  I expect to see it lose more then one game from the
opening this weekend.  :)

JW



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