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Subject: Re: Oh, my God, what a broadside I got...!

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 02:32:27 04/20/98

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I apologise for contributing to an off topic discussion.

I haven't read the original "The Bell Curve", but I have read "The Bell
Curve Wars", edited by Steven Fraser, in which about 15 different
contributors give their view about the well known best seller.

I found it to be a compelling read - I recommend it (though I wish that
more use had been made of mitochondrial DNA evidence, which shows that
humans have only been diversifying for 150,000 years, which is too
little for any groups to have gained a big evolutionary hardware
advantage in intelligence. I think that the mitochondrial DNA evidence
was brand new when "The Bell Curve Wars" was written).

It seems that although IQ tests have good predictive power within a
culture, they are very poor when used between cultures.

Two stark examples illustrate the point.

Firstly, American Jews achieved low IQ scores around 1915, when the US
army first conducted racially categorised tests. Now, however, the US
Jews achieve the highest scores, and are rated in "The Bell Curve" as
being the most intelligent group in America. In the intervening years,
the jews have not interbred significantly with other groups, so the IQ
increase seems to be culturally based. It seems to be a general trend
that when a group is new in a society, it scores lowly on IQ tests. Over
time, it catches up.

This is supported by the fact that black Ameicans (who score below
average on IQ tests) have been consistently catching up to the average
over the last 40 years (the period during which they have been allowed
to start integrating into society).

Black children in orphanages with white children actually scored
significantly higher at age 5 than their white counterparts.

Secondly, the average african scores 75 on the american IQ tests. In the
USA, anyone who scores below 50 is regarded as being seriously mentally
retarded, and unable to look after themselves. Since 20% of the African
population are patently not in this situation, there must be something
wrong with the IQ tests when used between different cultures.

One of the contributors to "The Bell Curve Wars" was Stephen Jay Gould.
He said that after reading "The Bell Curve" several times, he thought
the book contained a lot of "Scholarly Brinkmanship", in which the
authors' keep selecting pieces of evidence which imply that black's
might be genetically intellectually inferior to whites, but the authors
themselves keep repeating that they're agnostic on the issue, thus
maintaining their apparent neutrality.



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