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Subject: Re: Best testsuite (sure it's not WAC)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:14:32 06/07/01

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On June 07, 2001 at 12:33:44, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On June 07, 2001 at 10:52:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 07, 2001 at 06:41:44, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>On June 07, 2001 at 05:52:51, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes I know all test suites are almost useless to finds the best playing chess
>>>>software. But still, which suite is the less bad in your opinion? If You can
>>>>only use one test suite before starting real games, which suite will you select?
>>>>Is it still LCT II?
>>>
>>>Following Bruce Moreland's recommendations, I'd have to name ECM.
>>>
>>>--
>>>GCP
>>
>>
>>I don't like ECM as it has _way_ too many errors.  The "modified" version
>>might be reasonable.
>
>I don't see why the errors matter.  So I fail on those, big deal.  If I run WAC,
>I get the same number every time.  If I run ECM with more time, I'll find more
>solutions.  To me this means that if I make the program better, I'll find more
>of them, which is what the suite is supposed to show.  The suite has 879
>positions.  I think that well over 700 of them can be found, although I don't
>have an exact number.
>
>bruce


I don't like getting "better" and then getting more wrong answers.  Or getting
worse and getting more "right" answers.  The ones that are wrong are really
wrong.  And it is certainly possible to make your program stronger and suddenly
start getting the wrong answers rather than the right ones.

IE it is like grading a test with a key that randomly gets changed without
your knowing...

I thought that was the reason we spent so much time going over the thing and
excluding obviously bad positions?



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