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Subject: Re: Why the sudden urge to proclaim programs as GMs?

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 06:35:07 06/26/01

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On June 26, 2001 at 09:17:18, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

>On June 26, 2001 at 09:06:42, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>Over the last month, there have been a number of such huge arguments.
>>I've always thought that it's a bit strange to get hung up on this
>>question. Five years ago, it was clear that the best micro programs
>>were not at GM strength. And presumably if you wait five years, PC
>>programs will have proven beyond any doubt that they are at GM strength.
>>Surely the time we happen to be living in is the best and most enjoyable,
>>because we're perhaps seeing a moment of transition between these positions.
>>Why then the need to convince anybody of anything when you can just sit
>>there and be proved right by waiting? Is there some particular benefit to
>>being able to say that PC programs are GMs *now*?
>>
>>Andrew
>
>I don't think that the argument is beneficial, but there are some people there
>are certain that prog's are gm strength, i myself is one of them and when people
>say that prog's are only 2100 rated it provokes, especially when you look at DJ
>2703 perf against the top human gm's, it would be the same as to say that a 2100
>player could acheive the same, in the same company.
>
>Regards
>Jonas

I don't understand the "2100" comments. I've heard people say that progs
sometimes play like 2100-rated players, but I've heard that about human
players too (eg watching ICC relays of human tournaments). However, I've not
recently heard anyone claim that a modern program on modern hardware would be
rated 2100. It seems to be a straw man which is used to continue the arguments.

Andrew




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