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Subject: Re: Why the sudden urge to proclaim programs as GMs?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 10:36:28 06/26/01

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On June 26, 2001 at 13:28:04, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On June 26, 2001 at 10:18:05, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>
>>On June 26, 2001 at 09:06:42, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>>>Over the last month, there have been a number of such huge arguments.
>>>I've always thought that it's a bit strange to get hung up on this
>>>question. Five years ago, it was clear that the best micro programs
>>>were not at GM strength. And presumably if you wait five years, PC
>>>programs will have proven beyond any doubt that they are at GM strength.
>>>Surely the time we happen to be living in is the best and most enjoyable,
>>>because we're perhaps seeing a moment of transition between these positions.
>>>Why then the need to convince anybody of anything when you can just sit
>>>there and be proved right by waiting? Is there some particular benefit to
>>>being able to say that PC programs are GMs *now*?
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>
>>Hi Andrew,
>>I think that one of the most interesting argument in Computer Chess Club is to
>>observe and comment the computers achievement in this "Art" or "Sport" or "Game"
>>,whatever you like.
>>
>>Regards.
>
>Yes, I quite agree. In my view there's *nothing* more
>interesting than watching a strong player versus a
>strong program at long time controls. Call me shallow
>if you like, but this is the main reason why I deplore
>the new FIDE time controls. Just as we are becoming able
>to construct useful arguments about programs vs GMs, one
>of the variables of our "experiment" changes.

Pretty soon, all chess will be nothing but 5 minute blitz, and computers will be
"super-duper GM's."  We'll all eat at McDonalds and drive Fords.  Our shoes
won't be real leather, but plastic is almost as nice.

>I was just wondering why there seems to be a major push
>to get PCs acknowledged as GM-strength or whatever, *now*.
>
>Andrew



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