Author: Chessfun
Date: 14:00:14 06/27/01
Go up one level in this thread
On June 27, 2001 at 15:10:37, Mark Young wrote:
>On June 27, 2001 at 15:07:41, Côme wrote:
>
>>On June 27, 2001 at 15:06:33, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>On June 27, 2001 at 15:04:12, Côme wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:59:56, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:54:49, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:43:44, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:17:30, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 13:24:45, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 13:09:56, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 12:45:24, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I post only my fantastical games....and "I'm happy"!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Ok.?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>>Eduard
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi Eduard,
>>>>>>>>>>Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>I think that Eduard discovering about weak points or "bad moves" can be very
>>>>>>>>>>helpful for the chess programs developers community because they can learn the
>>>>>>>>>>lesson and fix the weak points of the programs, like in this case Shredder.
>>>>>>>>>>So I think that the contribution of Eduard is welcome as a "tester" of the
>>>>>>>>>>computer creatures.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The programs have the weaknesses at the time controls he is playing at, but so
>>>>>>>>>what, this is not news to any programmer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>He is playing tricks, do it over the board at 40/2 under tournament conditions.
>>>>>>>>>He can't do it, unless he knows the programs book, but if you change the way the
>>>>>>>>>program played a slight bit he would be lost again. For Eduard to win, he must
>>>>>>>>>expolit the computer openness.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Have Eduard play Crafty on ICC, and win a match, because Crafty will not lose to
>>>>>>>>>this crap in match play.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Keep up the good work Eduard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>See this posting for You and say your opinion, Ok!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I play no Online-Chess in CCC - Why? But play "live" !
>>>>>>>>Here my posting for You:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"In ICC on-line chess I do not know myself yet out. Those are for me in
>>>>>>>>addition, no normal play conditions. I would play however very gladly a " duel "
>>>>>>>>against GM, on level lightning 5 ', 24 portions and on lightning 30 ', 10
>>>>>>>>portions. That also almost folded it in January 2001, should in the region
>>>>>>>>Stuttgart take place. I had a sponsor at that time already for it, and a German
>>>>>>>>computer journal offered likewise a money on (GM does not play if he no cash for
>>>>>>>>it receives!). I called the magazine (so they wanted to have it) accurate date
>>>>>>>>and place, and was adjusted to it had to be played. The responsible of that
>>>>>>>>magazine however did not want to accept my conditions (" that is too easily for
>>>>>>>>me like that ", said it). My condition was: 14 days before the match I should
>>>>>>>>have the original CD including book and program! The program can learn or? -)
>>>>>>>>One offered with the following conditions (eMail I have still, think I):
>>>>>>>>1. Another place (700 km away from me)
>>>>>>>>2. the program version I may not know
>>>>>>>>3. the initialization book would be likewise prepared
>>>>>>>>4. GM wanted the magazine to place
>>>>>>>>5. I may some hours at the PC practice, more not I rejected in such a way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I wanted to play " only " against an available PC version including book. Also
>>>>>>>>the place specified by me was ok one, because it would have become a " public
>>>>>>>>event ". At the place which I had suggested, took place "maemlich" a large open
>>>>>>>>- one of the largest open of Germany! Who there too had cowardly been? I am safe
>>>>>>>>that I in the PC duel against of GM (or IN) good chances would have had to win,
>>>>>>>>because I was very well "drauf". Unfortunate that it did not fold.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Correction:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>1. It should be obviously a Computer duell
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2. (" that is too easily for me like that ", said it) - - > that is not a
>>>>>>>>quotation from eMail separates only summarized words in a general manner! It
>>>>>>>>concerned it that I not too easily to have should with killer courses!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>3. I already knew the program, however I was not allowed to know the version
>>>>>>>>number of the program!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>4. " my schedule " (January 2001) did not fit the magazine, therefore the match
>>>>>>>>should take place elsewhere and in former times (to training I would have then
>>>>>>>>however no time had).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Eduard Nemeth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Training....Just jump online a play Crafty some games, remember you said its
>>>>>>>easy, I say its hard....so prove it when you do not control the program then win
>>>>>>>a match....I say you can't and/or won't do it. You know the outcome as well as
>>>>>>>I...Crafty wins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I played not online-chess but I played many years in chess-club, and in the
>>>>>>chess-club I played "live" against human "and against computer too"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I can "live" play against computer, than is this for me Ok.
>>>>>>and very interesting than this makes me happy - but online chess not.
>>>>>>You can for You online-chess play but, please let me "my chess" play. Ok.?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>How convenient for you……I sure it has nothing to do with you not being able to
>>>>>control the outcome of game…….What ever. I must be a profit because I knew you
>>>>>would refuse to back up your claims.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>>>Eduard
>>>>
>>>>Hello !
>>>>Why do you attack Eduard ?
>>>>You think games he post are somewhat fixed or manipulated ?
>>>>Crafty is not invicible you know, it is beatable even at blitz.
>>>>Best regards
>>>>Alexandre Côme
>>>
>>>
>>>Sure it is, but not by a player of his skill level when he can not control the
>>>outcome....THAT IS THE POINT.
>>
>>How do you know his skill level ?
>
>Because I know he is not a FM, IM, or GM. Do you know something I don't about
>his skill level.
So only FM, IM or GM's can beat a pc program?
Sarah.
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.