Author: Mark Young
Date: 12:38:11 07/01/01
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On July 01, 2001 at 15:20:12, Hristo wrote: >On July 01, 2001 at 14:19:39, Mark Young wrote: > >>On July 01, 2001 at 13:57:22, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >> >>>On July 01, 2001 at 13:25:28, Mark Young wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>After that the Elo rating is how Grandmasters are ranked. >>>> >>>>2500 to 2599 Elo: standard or average Grandmaster rating. Most Grandmasters fall >>>>in this group. >>>> >>>>2600 to 2699 Elo: What some call the Elite Grandmaster ranks. Usually less then >>>>100 Grandmaster fill the Elite ranks. >>>> >>>>2700 & Up Elo: World Class Grandmaster ranks and usually includes the World >>>>Chess Champion(s) and challengers. Usually contains less then 10 players, but >>>>has gone up in recent years. >>> >>>Great reply Mark! >>>But now a subtle question arises ... Which of the three above mentioned >>>categories does the top programs belongs to ? >>>Probably this is the second step in definition ... >> >> >>The data suggest strongly that the computers are in the Elite Grandmaster ranks. >>Tiger like Junior is confirming this data. >> >>It must be noted every player above 2580 is a Grandmaster on the current Fide >>Elo list. >> >>All data suggest that computers are above the 2580 elo rating, or average >>Grandmaster class. >> >>That is why the GM argument is like arguing if the world if flat or round. >> >>Only subjectively could you argue that the world is flat, “Can’t you see by >>looking the world is flat”. >> > >This only makes cense if you have a "flat head" ... ;-))))) >If you don't I'm going to "crunch your head" and make it flat ... so >you argument is valid! ;-)))) ... >I refer to " The kids in the hall" ... thing ... just so you don't get >offended. > >Whats the point of claiming 2600 .... How valid is it?! Why don't you play >COMPS vs COMPS and tell me when you have the winner. After how many games? >What are the conditions for the COPMS vs COMPS tournament?! Why don't you think that strongest program are not 2600+? The data playing humans and human grandmasters shows the best programs to be this strong. What data do you have that counters this....other then what you would like to be true. > >regards. >hristo > > >>All objective evidence is showing the best computer programs are above 2500+, >>and strongly suggests them above 2600. >> >>More data coming...
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