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Subject: Re: Scrappy #1 at ICC

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 10:23:29 07/10/01

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On July 10, 2001 at 08:48:09, Chessfun wrote:

>Since the Spitfire message, why not a Scrappy one.
>
>Seems Spitfire caught the draw bug.
>
>Recent games of SpitFire:
>
>                  Opponent     Type         ECO End Date
>76: = 3404 B 3198 Mecking      [ br  5   7] A52 Rep Jul 10 01 08:02
>75: + 3413 W 3189 Mecking      [ br  5   7] B22 Res Jul 10 01 07:50
>74: + 3406 B 3212 SWM          [ br  5   7] A40 Res Jul 09 01 23:03
>73: = 3397 W 3221 SWM          [ br  5   7] B07 Rep Jul 09 01 22:43
>72: = 3405 B 3208 Mecking      [ br  5   7] D59 NM  Jul 09 01 19:44
>71: = 3414 W 3199 Mecking      [ br  5   7] E10 50  Jul 09 01 12:18
>70: + 3423 B 3190 Mecking      [ br  5   7] A93 Fla Jul 09 01 12:04
>69: = 3416 W 3197 Mecking      [ br  5   7] B22 Rep Jul 09 01 11:47
>68: a 2232 W 2638 junior       [ Br  2   1] B00 Sho Jul 08 01 18:42
>67: = 3426 B 3234 garompon     [ br  5   7] B19 Rep Jul 08 01 17:27
>66: = 3435 W 3139 jeleen       [ br  5   3] B15 Rep Jul 08 01 14:01
>65: + 3447 B 3133 jeleen       [ br  5   7] B06 Res Jul 08 01 13:31
>64: + 3442 W 3138 jeleen       [ br  5   7] A04 Res Jul 08 01 13:24
>63: = 3437 B 3168 jeleen       [ br  5   7] B07 Rep Jul 08 01 12:59
>62: = 3448 W 3157 jeleen       [ br  5   7] A04 Agr Jul 08 01 12:46
>61: = 3460 B 3145 jeleen       [ br  5   7] B11 Agr Jul 08 01 12:27
>60: = 3472 W 3133 jeleen       [ br  5   7] A10 Rep Jul 08 01 12:14
>59: + 3484 B 3121 jeleen       [ br  5   7] A80 Res Jul 08 01 11:56
>58: + 3480 W 3125 jeleen       [ br  5   7] B13 Res Jul 08 01 11:41
>57: + 3476 B 3129 jeleen       [ br  5   7] C01 Res Jul 08 01 11:27
>
>Recent games of scrappy:
>
>                  Opponent     Type         ECO End Date
>18: = 3412 B 3187 Mecking      [ br  5   3] D25 Rep Jul 08 01 17:54
>17: + 3422 W 3177 Mecking      [ br  5   3] E19 Res Jul 08 01 17:30
>16: = 3415 B 3184 Mecking      [ br  5   3] D30 Rep Jul 08 01 11:56
>15: + 3425 W 3174 Mecking      [ br  5   3] D37 Res Jul 08 01 11:34
>14: = 3419 B 3180 Mecking      [ br  5   3] D25 Rep Jul 08 01 11:18
>13: = 3429 W 3225 garompon     [ br  5   3] E15 NM  Jul 07 01 18:57
>12: = 3438 B 3216 garompon     [ br  5   3] C47 Rep Jul 07 01 18:46
>11: + 3448 W 3088 Rabin        [ br  3   0] D44 Res Jul 07 01 15:27
>10: + 3444 W 3164 jeleen       [ br  5   3] A46 Res Jul 07 01 12:17
> 9: + 3438 B 3170 jeleen       [ br  5   3] C48 Res Jul 07 01 12:08
> 8: = 3432 W 3206 garompon     [ br  5   3] E15 Rep Jul 07 01 03:11
> 7: = 3442 B 3196 garompon     [ br  5   3] B22 Rep Jul 07 01 02:58
> 6: + 3452 W 3069 TotoyBato    [ br  5   3] E11 Res Jul 07 01 01:34
> 5: + 3449 W 3231 Mecking      [ br  5   3] A63 Res Jul 06 01 22:31
> 4: + 3441 B 3239 Mecking      [ br  5   3] D30 Res Jul 05 01 10:40
> 3: + 3433 B 3186 garompon     [ br  5   3] B22 Fla Jul 05 01 20:08
> 2: = 3426 W 3247 Mecking      [ br  5   3] D85 Rep Jul 05 01 10:29
> 1: + 3434 B 3239 Mecking      [ br  5   3] D30 Res Jul 05 01 10:16
> 0: + 3426 W 3247 Mecking      [ br  5   3] D92 Fla Jul 05 01 10:04
>99: = 3417 B 3199 garompon     [ br  5   3] C47 Rep Jul 05 01 02:32
>
>Sarah.

It seems that Scrappy chose to avoid 5 7 games when spitFire plays this time
control.

I suspect that this fact helps scrappy to get better rating because humans can
get better result against computers in 5 7 time control and these results are
calculated at the same rating list.

I guess that humans with 3200 should get get more rating points from drawing
3400 computers if the time control is faster.

It is possible to do it by using a formula to translate the rating of the
players to another number based on the time control when the translation is
different for humans and computers.

It is possible to calculate a fair formula based on the results on ICC.

Uri



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