Author: Miguel A. Ballicora
Date: 09:06:53 07/12/01
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On July 12, 2001 at 11:04:58, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>On July 12, 2001 at 10:52:29, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>
>>On July 12, 2001 at 04:31:57, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>
>>>On July 12, 2001 at 01:41:45, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 11, 2001 at 21:30:36, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 11, 2001 at 20:12:56, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>you could have used f--- instead of what you did john.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>there could be some young ones here, and maybe some that just object.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>is this acceptable language here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i think not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>arent there some women that post here also?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>yes we should treat them equal, but i feel uncomfortable about this post.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>As long as "fuck" is not used to insult the reader of the message, nor used to
>>>>>shock the reader on purpose, I don't see where the problem is...
>>>>>
>>>>>Or maybe you just hope that by removing the word "fuck" from everywhere the
>>>>>youngest one will never understand what "fuck" means, or will understand only
>>>>>when it is legal for them to understand the word? :)
>>>>>
>>>>>I consider "f---" as offensive than "fuck". Not because of the meaning of the
>>>>>word. It's because of the censorship applied on it. It is much more subversive
>>>>>and damaging than the real meaning of the word.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christophe
>>>>
>>>>I just do not agree with you. That language has no place here. There are women
>>>>here for example and it makes no difference how it is said, it does not need to
>>>>be said. My opinion anyhow
>>>>WAyne
>>>
>>>What difference does it make that there are women here? what a bad argument,
>>>either you are fine with the use of the word or you are not, someone pointed out
>>>that there are younger readers/posters here and that is why i don't think that
>>>using profanity is ok, even if it is a quote, i mean where is the limit?
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Jonas
>
>Yes, that is even worse. But why do you think so ? You do not want them to hear
>the word ? When they grow up it's ok ? Why not teach them when young that it is
>not ok, that would seem to be your thought that it is not ok for youngsters to
>hear it.
>
>I think it is a baby boomer loose style of life, lack of moral fiber. My wife
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You just insulted a whole generation with style even though you did not
use any dirty word. Certainly, this does not have place in this newsgroup.
I am not being sarcastic, I mean it. Every generation has characteristics, good
and bad, including yours. The only thing that changes is the knowledge that
allows us to be wiser and wiser. Well, even Socrates complained about the
youngsters...
>and I are in our 70's. If my kids would have used that word I would kick there
>rear end inside out. Now that there adults they do not use the word.
>Geeze, do you go to church, God's place. Would you use that word there. Would
>you talk to your minister with that language ?
My grandmother always said that "there are no dirty words, there are dirty
minds" even though she never used "inappropiate" language. There are
inappropiate behaviors, and certainly, john Merlino's and C. Theron's are ok.
I have never seen them using inappropiate language.
You are not here in the church. I will never use that word in your church
because of a matter of etiquette and respect. Using it will be insulting
behavior. You are here in internet where a common sense netiquette says that if
you have a message that might offend somebody you should warn in the the
subject. The message was on topic and you have no right to be offended.
It was a quote!
Language is just a pile of words. Even the same words can be use in other
countries and the meaning is different (Bloody comes to mind). Best example: In
Spain the meaning of "coger" is "take", but in Argentina, Mexico an some other
hispanoamerican countries the word means literally "f---" (note: I am not using
the word because YOU will be offended and I am talking to you, otherwise I
will). Children are accostumed to see spaniard movies with "coger" all the time.
No problem, they have to learn the difference.
In Argentina, there is sport journalist that his last name is "Fucks" (sorry, no
editing here, I'm referring to a person's name and there is nothing insulting
about it, even if a minister has to hear it). Will he have to edit his name if
he post here?
>Is your vocabulary so limited that you must use that word ? I am talking to all
>of you people who have contributed to the thread, but in particuliar to
>Christophe.
He is not _using_ the word, he is discussing about it almost academically. Can't
the people see the difference? A professor talking about heces does not mean
that he will poop in front of the students!
Regards,
Miguel
PS: This is getting a little bit off-topic, I promise this will be my only
message unless there is a direct reference.
>
>Wayne
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