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Subject: Re: No more Excuses Dr. Hyatt, you said if Fritz beats Huebner then C =GM

Author: Mark Young

Date: 09:57:28 07/15/01

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On July 15, 2001 at 12:49:55, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On July 15, 2001 at 12:24:01, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On July 15, 2001 at 10:57:47, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On July 15, 2001 at 07:58:10, odell hall wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don't do what you did on the Van Diel Wiel match and Renig, you said if rebel
>>>>beat Van Der Wiel then computers are GM's , But you back out.
>>>
>>>First Dr. Hyatt is away for a week. So he won't even see you message! Didn't you
>>>read he was off for a holiday?
>>>
>>>Second, GM John van der Wiel played a very short match with Rebel Century, and
>>>the first time he'd ever lost a match to computer, and that was by a mere point.
>>>
>>>GM John van der Wiel is an excellent player but not a 2600+ GM, at least not at
>>>present. Yet he could turn a second match with Rebel Century around I'm sure.
>>>Not putting down Rebel, it's an excellent chess program, but not a World Class
>>>GM 2600+, at least not yet!;)
>>>
>>>Third, GM Huebner isn't a young man anymore, so I doubt he can play like he is!
>>
>>I don't understand your point. GM Huebner is a active Grandmaster with a current
>>Fide Rating of 2600+. So GM Huebner must play like a 2600+ Grandmaster at his
>>current age, since his rating is that good.
>Maybe, but I'm sure he fatigues more often than a 2600+ 20 year old GM with an
>equal rating. So he may have times when he performs below is rating.
>
>That's my point!
>>
>>If GM Huebner loses the match to Fritz, Fritz will have beaten a standing 2600+
>>Fide Grandmaster.
>
> Yes that's true. But does it make Deep Fritz on a dual P-III with a Gig. of
>Ram, a Grandmaster?

Right, Grandmaster is only a title, but it is another nail in the coffen for
those who think the best programs are not of "GM strength".

>
>I don't believe so.
>>
>>>
>>>Forth, do you know more than Professor Hyatt? Are you a programmer? Better yet
>>>are you a GM??
>>>
>>>I don't know anything about you odell hall with the exception, you could show a
>>>little more respect!
>>>
>>>As for the todays' game GM Huebner played Black and brought about a draw on move
>>>23!
>>>
>>>So we'll see for fun how the rest of the very short match will go;) Myself, I
>>>don't think tiny matches such as these have any great value in determining
>>>whether a program has reached the GM level, only that these programs can give a
>>>GM a good fight, and may win from time to time.
>>>
>>>Give both technology and programming another 5 years and I believe by then we'll
>>>have _solid_ GM 2600+ chess playing monsters!
>>>
>>>Terry



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