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Subject: German Grandmaster V. Hort : I would not bet on Hübner

Author: Patrick Götz

Date: 16:24:42 07/16/01

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Hi

Yesterday  Grandmaster V.Hort (Elo ca. 2510) was in  german TV program "WDR" in
a report above  the dortmund match and games.
He said that he self is more loosing than winning against computers and he said
that the computer is the little fouvorite in his opinion.
But he said also, that Kramnik is his fouvorite in the next match against Deep
Fritz, but he would not bet on Kramnik.

Bye
Patrick



On July 16, 2001 at 18:47:11, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On July 16, 2001 at 18:20:15, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>
>>On July 16, 2001 at 17:51:56, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>>>On July 16, 2001 at 15:57:01, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 16, 2001 at 13:46:25, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 16, 2001 at 12:48:42, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 16, 2001 at 12:19:00, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[Event "Dortmund"]
>>>>>>>[Site "Dortmund, Germany"]
>>>>>>>[Date "2001.07.16"]
>>>>>>>[Round "5"]
>>>>>>>[White "Huebner(GER)"]
>>>>>>>[Black "DeepFritz(C)"]
>>>>>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>>>>>[WhiteElo "2612"]
>>>>>>>[Opening "Ruy Lopez: closed (10...c5)"]
>>>>>>>[ECO "C96"]
>>>>>>>[NIC "RL.23"]
>>>>>>>[Time "07:28:12"]
>>>>>>>[TimeControl "7200+0"]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8.
>>>>>>>c3 O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 c5 11. d4 cxd4 12. cxd4 exd4 13. Nxd4 Bb7 14. Nf5
>>>>>>>Rc8 15. Bf4 Nc4 16. b3 Ne5 17. Nd2 Re8 18. Rc1 Bf8 19. Bb1 Rxc1 20. Qxc1 b4
>>>>>>>21. Qd1 d5 22. Nf1 Ng6 23. Bg5 h6 24. Bxf6 Qxf6 25. exd5 Rxe1 26. Qxe1 Bxd5
>>>>>>>27. Qd2 Be6 28. Nd4 Bd7 29. Be4 Nf4 30. Ne2 Nxe2+ 31. Qxe2 Bc5 32. Ne3 Qa1+
>>>>>>>33. Qd1 Qxd1+ 34. Nxd1 f5 35. Bd3 Bc8 36. Nb2 Kf7 37. Bc4+ Kf6 38. Nd3 Bd6
>>>>>>>39. f4 Bb7 40. g3 a5 41. Kf2 g5 42. h4 Be4 43. hxg5+ hxg5 44. Bb5 gxf4 45.
>>>>>>>gxf4 Bxd3 {Game drawn} 1/2-1/2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>GM Hübner was against the ropes most of the game, and also under time pressure.
>>>>>>But Fritz could not resist the temptation to win a pawn, and entered an
>>>>>>opposite-coloured bishop ending. The game was immediately agreed drawn, I guess
>>>>>>the operator of Fritz realized what was going on and did not want to waste his
>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>Does anybody know the time control? From watching the game live, it is
>>>>>>reasonable to assume that the first time control is 40 moves in two hours, but
>>>>>>then what?
>>>>>>José.
>>>>>
>>>>>Congratulation to Dr. Huebner, he defended well again in this second game.
>>>>>The open question is how many games will he endure against the silicon monster ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards.
>>>>
>>>>I’m confused, the way everyone is talking, it sounds like DeepFritz is the
>>>>favorite to win this match. I hear how nice the 2600+ Grandmaster played and
>>>>defended against the computer.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Your trolling is becoming somewhat tiresome. You said "the way everyone is
>>>talking", when the only opinion you are working from is from Otello Gnaramori.
>>>
>>>This seems to be about as convincing as your "programs are only rated 2100"
>>>straw man.
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>
>>Hi ,Andrew.
>>The english language isn't my mother tongue, but I think that when Jose' said
>>"against the ropes" meant "in difficulty" and "under time pressure" meant quite
>>the same concept.
>>This was just to say that it wasn't only a mine exclusive opinion that Dr.
>>Hubner was struggling against the "silicon beast".
>>Deep Fritz powered by dual processors at 1 Ghz and 1 GB of ram isn't exactly a
>>piece of cake.
>>
>>Regards.
>
>I personally wouldn't read Jose's message that way. For example, he says
>nothing about the expected result of the match. But even if that *is* what
>he meant, that still equals *two* posters, not "everyone", as was claimed.
>I'd be interested to see if Mark wishes to deny that he is just trolling for
>responses.
>
>Cheers
>
>Andrew



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