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Subject: Re: Hubner Draws again (pgn)

Author: odell hall

Date: 16:54:42 07/16/01

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On July 16, 2001 at 19:43:33, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On July 16, 2001 at 19:34:58, odell hall wrote:
>
>>On July 16, 2001 at 17:51:56, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>>>On July 16, 2001 at 15:57:01, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 16, 2001 at 13:46:25, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 16, 2001 at 12:48:42, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 16, 2001 at 12:19:00, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[Event "Dortmund"]
>>>>>>>[Site "Dortmund, Germany"]
>>>>>>>[Date "2001.07.16"]
>>>>>>>[Round "5"]
>>>>>>>[White "Huebner(GER)"]
>>>>>>>[Black "DeepFritz(C)"]
>>>>>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>>>>>[WhiteElo "2612"]
>>>>>>>[Opening "Ruy Lopez: closed (10...c5)"]
>>>>>>>[ECO "C96"]
>>>>>>>[NIC "RL.23"]
>>>>>>>[Time "07:28:12"]
>>>>>>>[TimeControl "7200+0"]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8.
>>>>>>>c3 O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 c5 11. d4 cxd4 12. cxd4 exd4 13. Nxd4 Bb7 14. Nf5
>>>>>>>Rc8 15. Bf4 Nc4 16. b3 Ne5 17. Nd2 Re8 18. Rc1 Bf8 19. Bb1 Rxc1 20. Qxc1 b4
>>>>>>>21. Qd1 d5 22. Nf1 Ng6 23. Bg5 h6 24. Bxf6 Qxf6 25. exd5 Rxe1 26. Qxe1 Bxd5
>>>>>>>27. Qd2 Be6 28. Nd4 Bd7 29. Be4 Nf4 30. Ne2 Nxe2+ 31. Qxe2 Bc5 32. Ne3 Qa1+
>>>>>>>33. Qd1 Qxd1+ 34. Nxd1 f5 35. Bd3 Bc8 36. Nb2 Kf7 37. Bc4+ Kf6 38. Nd3 Bd6
>>>>>>>39. f4 Bb7 40. g3 a5 41. Kf2 g5 42. h4 Be4 43. hxg5+ hxg5 44. Bb5 gxf4 45.
>>>>>>>gxf4 Bxd3 {Game drawn} 1/2-1/2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>GM Hübner was against the ropes most of the game, and also under time pressure.
>>>>>>But Fritz could not resist the temptation to win a pawn, and entered an
>>>>>>opposite-coloured bishop ending. The game was immediately agreed drawn, I guess
>>>>>>the operator of Fritz realized what was going on and did not want to waste his
>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>Does anybody know the time control? From watching the game live, it is
>>>>>>reasonable to assume that the first time control is 40 moves in two hours, but
>>>>>>then what?
>>>>>>José.
>>>>>
>>>>>Congratulation to Dr. Huebner, he defended well again in this second game.
>>>>>The open question is how many games will he endure against the silicon monster ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards.
>>>>
>>>>I’m confused, the way everyone is talking, it sounds like DeepFritz is the
>>>>favorite to win this match. I hear how nice the 2600+ Grandmaster played and
>>>>defended against the computer.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Your trolling is becoming somewhat tiresome. You said "the way everyone is
>>>talking", when the only opinion you are working from is from Otello Gnaramori.
>>>
>>>This seems to be about as convincing as your "programs are only rated 2100"
>>>straw man.
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>
>>
>>  I don't see where you get that Mark is "Trolling", he simply stated confusion
>>about something which to be frank i am also confused about, many here say
>>computers are not grandmasters, but yet they give Praise to a 2600
>
>Here we go again. "many here say... but yet they give praise to a 2600...".
>To be honest, Odell, there's no point in *you* speaking up for Mark Young,
>when you are simply here to troll for responses too.
>
>Andrew

  Sorry Andrew but you are wrong, I am very interested in this subject, I am not
trying to get attention, I don't need attention,I get it everyday, I am 6'6,
people are always responding to me, So if you think i need to come to a place
like this to get attention your wrong, I am just interesting in Computer vs
Human chess, to be frank it is one of the few things about computer chess I
like, it seems like a big challenge to Make computers be able to beat Strong
Human Grandmasters, Although I am not on the programming end of this, I admire
the Programmers who are able to accomplish this fantastic task, so I am not
trolling at all. I am curious why is express a Opinion that Computers are Gm's
,. Why is that Trolling? I don't see the logic, maybe you can help me see it?



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