Author: Harald Faber
Date: 01:42:13 08/13/01
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On August 12, 2001 at 21:57:56, Mike S. wrote: >On August 12, 2001 at 16:46:50, Andreas Schwartmann wrote: > >>I've just had the chance to talk a bit to Vishy Anand, after a match he played >>vs. Peter Leko for german television, here in Cologne. Of course I've asked him >>about the coming match in Barain, and he just laughed and said that the match >>"is a joke." (...) > >I'd be interested, how GMs would estimate the share of opening preparation, >compared to the opponent specific preparation in total. > >But I would expect this to be 70% or even more. This is not available for >Kramnik (I'm not sure how much openings played by Fritz in the past can help him >here). > >Kramnik may try to avoid deep book lines by playing semi-optimal but solid lines >with white, something like 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 or even 1.e4/2.b3 etc., but I don't >think he can do the same with black. Solid lines may also be optimal lines. ;-) And Kramnik is certainly capable playing such lines with black. >So I think this is all not that easy as Anand seems to think. I think for Kramnik it IS this easy. What you and some others still forget is the playing level Kramnik has. If we patzers find weaknesses in Fritz' play, and we do, what do you think Kramnik is able to? Even if he may not be able to exploit weaknesses in every game, he will play rock-solid chess and wait for an opportunity to win. And there will be LOTS of opportunities. >Probably sharp lines are forbidden for Kramnik? A program on 8 CPUs will be able >to find extreme tactical surprises, as soon as the position becomes combinative. > >An example from Ron Langeveld/rgcc (although on a lower computing level of >course, but suitable as an illustration I think). Tiger, ore both, played >without book: > >Gambit Tiger 2.0 - Hiarcs 7.32 >P800_25:00, 2001 > >1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nxd5 6.Qh5 g6 7.Qf3 Qxg5 8.Bxd5 > >[D]r1b1kb1r/ppp2p1p/2n3p1/3Bp1q1/8/5Q2/PPPP1PPP/RNB1K2R b KQkq - 0 8 > >8...Nd4! > >Black not only allows 9.Qxf7+, he even forces it - but still gets an advantage! >Now imagine not Hiarcs on 1 x P800 at 25:00, but Deep Fritz on 8 x P? at >2h/40... If I was Kramnik, I'm afraid I could't eat nor sleep until the match is >over :o) Sure, you are not Kramnik. Kramnik is World Champion and plays very decent chess. And as he finds easily weaknesses in human opponents' play, he also finds waknesses (strength of course too) in Fritz or any other program. And if you ask him or any top-10 player, they will agree that there are LOTS of weaknesses still available. > - But I think he will win 6-2. 4 wins with white and 4 draws with black? ;-) No, regarding the sponsor I think he will play 5-3 not to make Fritz look too stupid. And perhaps not to show too many weaknesses he found...for further matches... :-) Kasparow, Fischer, Tal, they all would demolish Fritz, but I don't think Kramnik has this intention. BTW I would relly LOVE to see Fischer play computers, he would teach them a lot. >mfg. >Michael Scheidl
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