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Subject: Re: Deep Blue--Part III

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 08:16:01 05/13/98

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Posted by Vincent Diepeveen on May 13, 1998 at 06:12:00:

In Reply to: Re: Deep Blue--Part III posted by Dave Gomboc on May 12,
1998
at 21:31:19:

>KK kup was fake. Diep got black in the only 2 important games.
>Just 2 games.

>And Diep got outbooked by both programs.
>Game against Rebel it was directly lost. Diep's horrible in French.
>Just look at ICC the % of wins of Diep in French.

Then why play French?

Because Diep plays the French bad the KK-KUP-I was a fake?

As far as I remember you were the one claiming to have the best
analysis program in the world and exactly THIS was the reason
that KK organized the first KK cup.


>2500 SSDF says nothing.

Is Diep better then?


>Don't you get it, all programs sent to Sweden have played say 10000
>auto232 games or something.

>Sweden became one big book tuning event.

Partly true.


>In the future this might change if books get more variaty.

This for most programs is already true.


>Until then this Sweden list is laughable.

Your opinion, not mine.


>How can a program like Fritz5 which loses normally to all those programs
>can get on top?

Any proof of that?


>How can Rebel9 get stronger than 8, considering that the only
>4 things changed are interface,few extensions to solve some tricks,
>BOOKLEARNING, and with capital letters BOOK.

Any proof of that?


>The program didn't play better, yet it got a higher elorating because it
>scored better in matches.

>That kind of comparision is wrong. It won't play better against humans
>than Rebel8 nor will it play better in tournaments.

Any proof of that?


>A simple 1.d4,d5 2.Bf4 was enough for Diep in aufsess tournament
>to beat it.

>No doubt that when i send my program to Sweden that  i will
>have played some hundreds ot auto232 games too (i'm only
>having a Pentium pro 200 and a laptop 133, so i can't produce
>thousands of games like the pro's).

Like to help you. Just send Diep and I will test it for you on
40/2:00. Diep is auto232 compatible or?

- Ed -


>Your computerchess insight is laughable.

>A program just playing 6 games in its life you call God.

>Where i need to get a rating in Sweden based on cooked lines
>after hundreds of games, or thousands of auto232 games, before
>you believe me?

>>Dave Gomboc




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