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Subject: Re: crafty at the internet vs diep

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 11:06:06 05/13/98

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On May 13, 1998 at 08:00:40, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>We're talking about results of the latest version of Diep.
>Not about a set of games somewhere in between.

This post contains a huge number of excuses.  Fact is that if you want
to compare two programs, you have to compare what is there, not what
would be there if you didn't have bugs, or you'd spent an afternoon
writing a book learnier, or if your program was better at certain phases
of the game.

It is true that you can't judge a game solely by the outcome.  You might
have a big advantage during a game, and your opponent might benefit from
figuring out how you got it, and perhaps getting it indicates that you
were doing something right.  But if you throw the advantage away, your
opponent might deserve some credit for keeping itself in the game, and
you have some work to do in order to be able to more precisely finish
the game.

There has to be some point to this.  If your goal is to produce
something that plays some moves very accurately, and you are willing to
overlook that it screws up at other times, fine.  If your goal is to
play attacking chess, chess that is fun to watch, and you are willing to
endure some losses due to over-speculation, fine.  These are both fine
goals, and users want programs with these features.

Remember, though, that real chess strength is assigned on the basis of
wins and losses.  You can't expect your opponent to resign when you have
achieved your goal (a great move or a nice looking position), if you
want the point, you have to be able to checkmate.

bruce



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