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Subject: Re: And the real winner is...

Author: José Carlos

Date: 10:00:35 08/29/01

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On August 29, 2001 at 10:49:14, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 29, 2001 at 02:03:55, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On August 28, 2001 at 19:09:12, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>At the start of the tournament, the rules are made.  We play, and the winner is
>>>the winner according to the rules.
>>
>>True. This doesn't prevent us from taking a critical look at
>>the rules and results and clearing up a few things.
>>
>>>The professional/amateur distinction is always a little strange, but the ICCA
>>>defined the categories and there is no way that people arguing in a discussion
>>>group are going to change things after the tournament.
>>>
>>>Except for a few details I agreed with the categorization of the programs.
>>
>>Perhaps you did, but it certainly seems that I am not the
>>only one who feels that the current categoritzation is basically
>>nonsense.
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>
>I think all the various schemes are broken.  Simplest way is what we used to
>do at the ACM event years ago.  One title.  Plus one award for "best newcomer".
>After you have played in one of these events, you are no longer a newcomer and
>can't win that award a second time, ever.
>
>Trying to distinguish between someone who works on a commercial program,
>someone in academia that does research on a private program, and someone that
>just does it for fun, is most likely always going to be unfair, arbitrary, and
>incorrectly done.
>
>If it is hard to do, then simply quit trying to do it.  This has caused
>arguments since it was first implemented.  And it has not gotten any better.
>That should cause _someone_ to realize that perhaps the amateur/pro junk should
>just simply be dropped.  Once and for all.

  I like the "best newcomer" idea. I guess it's related to the programmer, not
to the program, right?
  Additionally, I'd like to see a "best freeware". It's also easy to define (the
version that participates _must_be_ free for download somewhere) and I think
it's a good idea to award those who share their work/hobby for free.

  José C.



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