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Subject: Past - Presence : Genius 4 - Chess Tiger 14.1

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 15:24:38 08/30/01


A hot topic on CCC these days seems to be how hardware and software advances in
computerchess correlate during the last
10 years.

After reading a lot of interesting posts this morning I felt inspired to do a
little experiment.

Mark Young wants to do experiments with older programs on present hardware and
is convinced he'll find out that the newer
programs will show considerable progress.

I agree to his expectations.

A few posters suggested that top chessprograms advanced about 200 ELO points in
software alone in the last 10 years .

Depends ..

New programs will take advance of the superior hardware availlable also in
design probably - so this test should be taken into
both directions IMHO.

So - looking around in my room my eyes suddenly feel on a dusty 486 computer
sleeping in the corner of my room - and then
suddenly my Palm began to beep in the briefcase ( the truth , not made-up) .

In advance : there has been convincing data posted that Chess Tiger on a Palm is
probably stronger than Chess Genius on a
Palm by Werner Schuele.
As Chess Genius on a Palm is said to be a port of the Mephisto Roma to Palm
architecture
we are talking about at least 14 years of development here though.

So the contenders :

Genius 4 ( which  isn't supposed to be superior to Genius 3 in public opinion -
so 10 years isn't far away)
on my 486DX50 computer ( in fact I don't really remember if it is 50 or 33 Mhz
and dunno how to test) -
so let's assume the 50 here with 4 MB RAM , so 1 MB availlable for hash
-> clearly a program of the past

against

ChessTiger 14.1 on Palm Vx overclocked as much as possible with AfterBurner ->
clearly a present top program

I am no hardware freak so if this is very unfair I should be informed - it's
simply what was availlable here.

I decided on games in 15 minutes ( dunno why ) .

It probably should be added that I am a fan of the ChessTiger program now and
have been a fan of ChessGenius in the past- so
I was simply curious .

Today ( day 1 ) there were five games - then my Palm reported that it soon wants
new energy now which has to wait
until the weekend .

So - to be continued when refuelled ..

pete

A few general observations:

Chess Tiger seemed to seek ~1 ply deeper most of the time . Chess Genius seemed
to have superior endgame knowledge where
Chess Tiger seemed to rely on its search only in similar situations . Both
opponents seem to be very close in strength.
There haven't been enough games played yet for _any_ statistical significance :)
.

A few extremely brief comments on the games :

Game 1 : 15. Ba6 ?! is a quite typical unpositional move by Chess Genius- close
to draw all the time
Game 2 : Out of the opening straight into the draw
Game 3 : 8. ..Nb6 ?! by ChessTiger kind of sucks - 24. ...Nc4 ? is blunderday .
Game 4 : Draw - no comment by me
Game 5 : This should have been Tiger's game. 10. ...e5 ?! looks unpositional
though ; 24. ef ?? by Genius ;
	26. ... Rxg2+ ? ( why ? ) , 52. ...Qe5 probably would have saved the game
probably

A few results :

Chess Tiger 14.1 - Genius 4 1/2 1/2 0-1 1/2 0-1 => 1,5-3,5 so far

A few conclusions :

Looking at the games I don't expect ChessTiger to be 200 ELO superior  -
although I know anything can happen ..

A few games :

[Event "Game in 15 / Palm-486"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Genius 4"]
[Black "Tiger 14.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B17"]
[PlyCount "126"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Nf3 Ngf6 6. Ng3 e6 7. Bd3 c5 8.
O-O cxd4 9. Nxd4 Bc5 10. Nf3 O-O 11. Qe2 b6 12. Bf4 Bb7 13. Rad1 Qe7 14. c3
Rfd8 15. Ba6 Bxa6 16. Qxa6 Nd5 17. Bg5 f6 18. Bc1 Bd6 19. Nf5 exf5 20. Rxd5 Ne5
21. Nxe5 Bxe5 22. Qd3 Rd6 23. Rxd6 Qxd6 24. Qc4+ Kf8 25. f4 Qc7 26. Qd5 Rd8 27.
Qb5 Bd6 28. Be3 Qe7 29. Bd4 Qe6 30. a4 Qe4 31. g3 Bb8 32. h3 Bd6 33. a5 Bc7 34.
axb6 axb6 35. Rf2 Qe1+ 36. Kh2 Qe6 37. Re2 Qc8 38. Bxb6 Bxb6 39. Qxb6 Rd3 40.
Qb5 Qd7 41. Qxd7 Rxd7 42. c4 Rb7 43. c5 Rb5 44. Rc2 Ke7 45. c6 Kd8 46. c7+ Kc8
47. g4 fxg4 48. hxg4 Rb7 49. f5 Rxc7 50. Rc3 Rxc3 51. bxc3 Kd7 52. Kg3 Kd6 53.
Kf4 Kd5 54. Ke3 g6 55. c4+ Ke5 56. fxg6 hxg6 57. Kd3 g5 58. Ke3 f5 59. gxf5
Kxf5 60. c5 Ke5 61. c6 Kd6 62. Kf3 g4+ 63. Kxg4 Kxc6 1/2-1/2

[Event "Game in 15/ Palm-486"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Tiger 14.1"]
[Black "Genius 4"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C55"]
[PlyCount "39"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. d4 exd4 5. e5 d5 6. Bb5 Ne4 7. Nxd4 Bc5 8.
Nxc6 Bxf2+ 9. Kf1 Qh4 10. Nxa7+ Bd7 11. Bxd7+ Kxd7 12. Nb5 Ng3+ 13. Kxf2 Ne4+
14. Ke2 Qf2+ 15. Kd3 Nc5+ 16. Kc3 Na4+ 17. Kb3 Nc5+ 18. Kc3 Na4+ 19. Kd3 Nc5+
20. Kc3 1/2-1/2

[Event "Game in 15/ Palm 486"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Genius 4"]
[Black "Tiger 14.1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C14"]
[PlyCount "137"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. Bxe7 Qxe7 7. f4 a6 8. Nf3
Nb6 9. Be2 O-O 10. O-O Rd8 11. Qd3 g6 12. Nb1 Nc6 13. c3 Qe8 14. Nbd2 Ne7 15.
Rf2 Nf5 16. Nf1 Bd7 17. a3 Bb5 18. Qc2 Nc4 19. a4 Nce3 20. Nxe3 Nxe3 21. Qb3
Bc6 22. Bd3 b5 23. a5 Bb7 24. Re2 Nc4 25. Qa2 b4 26. cxb4 Rdc8 27. Rc1 Qe7 28.
b3 Nd6 29. exd6 cxd6 30. Rxc8+ Rxc8 31. b5 axb5 32. a6 Bc6 33. a7 Ra8 34. Qa6
Be8 35. Ra2 Qc7 36. Bc2 Bc6 37. Qa5 Qb7 38. Bd3 b4 39. Ne1 Qe7 40. Qb6 Qb7 41.
Ra6 Qxb6 42. Rxb6 Rxa7 43. Rxc6 Ra3 44. Bc2 e5 45. Rxd6 exf4 46. Nd3 Ra1+ 47.
Kf2 Kf8 48. Nxb4 Ke7 49. Rxd5 Ke6 50. Rb5 Rh1 51. h3 Rc1 52. Rb6+ Kd7 53. Rc6
Ra1 54. Rf6 Ke8 55. Rxf4 f5 56. g4 fxg4 57. hxg4 Ke7 58. Be4 Rd1 59. Bc6 Ke6
60. g5 Rxd4 61. Rxd4 Kf5 62. Rd5+ Ke6 63. Ke3 Ke7 64. Rd7+ Ke8 65. Rxh7+ Kf8
66. Bd5 Ke8 67. Nc6 Kf8 68. Be6 Ke8 69. Rh8# 1-0

[Event "Game in 15/ Palm-486"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Tiger 14.1"]
[Black "Genius 4"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C17"]
[PlyCount "137"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 c5 5. Bd2 Ne7 6. a3 Bxc3 7. Bxc3 b6 8. b4
Qc7 9. Nf3 cxb4 10. Bxb4 Ba6 11. Bd3 Bxd3 12. Qxd3 Nbc6 13. O-O Nf5 14. g4 Nfe7
15. Bd6 Qd7 16. h3 Rc8 17. c3 h5 18. Ng5 hxg4 19. hxg4 f6 20. Nf3 fxe5 21. Bxe5
Nxe5 22. Nxe5 Qc7 23. Rac1 Qd6 24. f4 Rc7 25. Rc2 Kf8 26. Ra2 Rh4 27. Rff2 Kg8
28. Rf3 Nc6 29. Qg6 Rh6 30. Qe8+ Qf8 31. Qxf8+ Kxf8 32. Re2 Nxe5 33. Rxe5 Rg6
34. Kf2 Rxg4 35. f5 exf5 36. Rexf5+ Ke7 37. Rxd5 Rg6 38. Re5+ Kd6 39. Ref5 Rc4
40. Rf8 Ra4 41. Rd8+ Ke7 42. Rdf8 Rxa3 43. Ke2 Rf6 44. R8xf6 gxf6 45. Kd3 Ra5
46. Re3+ Kd6 47. Re8 Ra3 48. Rb8 f5 49. Rg8 b5 50. Rg6+ Ke7 51. Rg7+ Ke6 52.
Rb7 a6 53. Rb6+ Kf7 54. d5 f4 55. Ke4 f3 56. Kxf3 Rxc3+ 57. Ke4 Ra3 58. Ke5 Ke7
59. d6+ Kd7 60. Kd5 Ra2 61. Rb7+ Kc8 62. Rb6 Ra1 63. Kc6 Rc1+ 64. Kd5 Rd1+ 65.
Kc5 Ra1 66. Kc6 Rc1+ 67. Kd5 Rd1+ 68. Kc5 Rc1+ 69. Kd5 1/2-1/2

[Event "Game in 15/ Palm- 486"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Genius 4"]
[Black "Tiger 14.1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B11"]
[PlyCount "153"]

1. e4 c6 2. Nc3 d5 3. Nf3 Bg4 4. h3 Bxf3 5. Qxf3 e6 6. d3 Nf6 7. Be2 Nbd7 8.
O-O d4 9. Nd1 Bd6 10. Bf4 e5 11. Bd2 O-O 12. Qg3 Rc8 13. Bh6 Ne8 14. Bg4 Kh8
15. Bd2 Nef6 16. Bf5 g6 17. Bxd7 Nxd7 18. Bh6 Rg8 19. f4 f5 20. fxe5 Bxe5 21.
Bf4 Qc7 22. Bxe5+ Nxe5 23. Rf4 Rg7 24. exf5 gxf5 25. Qf2 Rcg8 26. Rxf5 Rxg2+
27. Qxg2 Rxg2+ 28. Kxg2 Ng6 29. Rf2 h5 30. Kf1 Qg3 31. Ke1 Qxh3 32. Kd2 h4 33.
Kc1 Qe6 34. Rh2 h3 35. b3 Qg4 36. Kb2 Qg3 37. Re2 h2 38. Nf2 Qg1 39. Nh1 Kg7
40. Rf2 c5 41. Rf3 Qg2 42. Rf2 Qh3 43. Re1 Nh4 44. Re7+ Kg6 45. Rxb7 Nf5 46.
Rxa7 Ne3 47. Ra6+ Kg5 48. Rf8 Nd1+ 49. Kb1 Nc3+ 50. Ka1 Qh5 51. Rf1 Qe2 52.
Raf6 Qxc2 53. R6f2 Qxd3 54. Rg2+ Kh6 55. Rxh2+ Kg7 56. Rg2+ Kh8 57. Rfg1 Qh7
58. Nf2 Nxa2 59. Kxa2 Qa7+ 60. Kb2 Qh7 61. Rh1 Qxh1 62. Nxh1 Kh7 63. Nf2 Kh6
64. Nd3 Kh5 65. Nxc5 Kh4 66. b4 Kh3 67. Rd2 Kg4 68. b5 Kf4 69. Rxd4+ Ke5 70.
Kc3 Kf5 71. b6 Ke5 72. b7 Kf5 73. b8=Q Kf6 74. Nd7+ Kg7 75. Qf8+ Kg6 76. Rg4+
Kh5 77. Nf6# 1-0





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