Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 16:58:59 09/10/01
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On September 10, 2001 at 02:23:48, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 09, 2001 at 23:55:43, Terry McCracken wrote: > >>On September 09, 2001 at 20:37:43, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>On September 09, 2001 at 19:59:46, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On September 09, 2001 at 19:44:59, Slater Wold wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 09, 2001 at 19:26:03, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 09, 2001 at 16:18:36, K. Burcham wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>game 2 deep blue moves >>>>>>> >>>>>>>26. f4 >>>>>>>37. Be4 >>>>>> >>>>>>Be4 is a bad move. 37.Qb6 is winning there because it goes to a won >>>>>>opposite bishops endgame (if you toss pieces with black) which directly >>>>>>explains why some programs want to make this move. >>>>> >>>>>Anand seems to disagree with you. You can disagree with me all you want, but I >>>>>think an arguement on the best chess move against Anand is going to be a short >>>>>one. >>>> >>>>I know that I cannot trust analysis of GM's not because they are stupid but >>>>because they usually do not spend a lot of time about their analysis and often >>>>do not use computers to investigate if they are right or wrong. >>>> >>>>It is a fact that Peter leko is not very good in correspondence games based on >>>>his ICCF rating and I believe that the main reason is simply the fact that >>>>average players who waste a lot of time about their games are simply better than >>>>super GM's who do not waste time about their corresondence games. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>> >>>LOL - Geez. No matter what I say............ >>> >>>Someone here always has a reason why Deep Blue was wrong when Deep Fritz cannot >>>find its move.....even when one of the top 3 GM's in the world agrees it's the >>>best move, you still have a reason why it's not. >>> >>>Look at the commentary for the moves. All GM's (and even Kaspy himself) who >>>were at the game (and/or watching it) all agree Be4 is the move to make. >>> >>> >>>Slate >> >>I concur Slate! >> >>Why Diepeeven still goes on about DB and Be4 etc. beats the hell out of me? >> >>Now he'll reply and say I'm calling him an asshole again! ;o) >> >> >>Mr. Diepeeven, I think you're an intelligent man, very good chess player and >>programmer. >> >>However, I don't understand your attitude about DB II or your opinion of >>Kasparov, IE "He played like a child etc.? > >Note that I did not say that he played like a child and I remember that ernst >heinz gave an analysis of many hours that suggested that Qb6 is the best move. > >The main problem is that the analysis was done at that time and >humans simply did not have strong machines to help them and they did not give >their machines many hours to analyze. > >I believe that the main line of Deep Fritz with Ra5 was not mentioned at that >time but if I am wrong then you can correct me. > >I did not check if Qb6 is winning but my impression is that the game move is not >winning. > >If people want to convince me that the game move was winning then the first step >is to show me how white win against Deep Fritz in a correspondence game after >the game move. > >Uri Ah...Not you Uri, Vincent Diepeeven made the comment "Kasparov played like a child." I wasn't refering to you. Please read it again. Terry
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