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Subject: Re: Chessbase sinks even deeper

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 03:34:53 09/11/01

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On September 10, 2001 at 14:30:11, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On September 09, 2001 at 14:23:41, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On September 09, 2001 at 13:17:49, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>They won the most important competition time after time (the ssdf list) and
>>>other programs could top the list only for a short time.
>>
>>The most important competition is the championship.
>>
>>The SSDF list is a closed highly controversial closed group
>>where not all programs participate. IMHO it's meaningless.
>
>Mathematically, it's far better data.  Of course, it is valid only for the exact
>conditions of the matches (but the same is true of world championships).
>
>Shredder got reamed, not even being allowed to enter the competition.  But I
>suspect that an 8 CPU version of Fritz or Junior is probably stronger anyway.
>That's an awfully large speed boost.
>

I suspect that Shredder on a eight-CPU machine is stronger than Fritz and Junior
on a single-CPU machine. I do not know which speed-up get these three programs
on such a machine, but having no data I suspect it is about the same.
I have no reason to suspect that Fritz or Junior on a eight-CPU machine are
clearly stronger than Shredder on an identical machine.
José.

>Of course, we'll never really know the answer to that question.
>
>>>I think that kasparov is the best player in the world.
>>
>>Ah, more denial.
>
>The best player in the world is among this group:
>Anand
>Kasparov
>Kramnik
>
>I think Kasparov is probably the best player in the world (and probably the best
>the world has ever seen).  Personally, I think he's kind of a twit, especially
>the way he reacted over the Deep Blue match.  But his chess is still incredible.
>
>Right now, Kramnik is playing as well or better than Kasparov.  Given the
>conditions of the match (if they are actually upheld) I strongly think that any
>of the above three players would do about the same against the Fritz machine --
>that is to say -- trounce it.  But (given the same preparation rules and machine
>restrictions) I think Shredder would surely have a tough go as well.
>
>I'm not defending ChessBase.  I think they are the 800 pound gorilla that sleeps
>anywhere it wants to.  But I think the facts will change little on the outcome,
>no matter what program is thrown into the fray.
>
>Of course, with human beings, anything is possible.



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