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Subject: Re: Need help: which is faster for chess 1.4 athlon or dual pIII 1.0ghz

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 09:36:16 09/13/01

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On September 13, 2001 at 12:20:49, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On September 13, 2001 at 10:59:33, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>
>>On September 13, 2001 at 10:12:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On September 13, 2001 at 09:20:19, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 13, 2001 at 08:36:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 13, 2001 at 05:40:58, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 12, 2001 at 19:27:18, ERIQ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I generally run linux so would love to have dual system but am not sure which
>>>>>>>would run crafty faster the single athlon or dual pIII's. but I am sure they are
>>>>>>>both faster than what I have now a 433 cel. :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(must upgrade fast)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Let me also say that I would like something under $2,000 us. and would not mind
>>>>>>>building it myself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would be using it for general stuff, trying to write programs in C,C++, and of
>>>>>>>course chess mostly my database programs and playing programs Yace,CT,Crafty
>>>>>>>etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>main reason for upgrade is any time you are compiling something and try to do
>>>>>>>something else, it gets sooooo slooooow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sign,
>>>>>>>    Eriq
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am currently in the progress of building a dual Athlon mp and i am waiting for
>>>>>>the availability of faster processors, but if i were to go ahead and buy all the
>>>>>>parts now i would get a 2x1.2 ghz Athlon mp system with 1gig ddr pc2100 ram
>>>>>>with nice graphic card, sound card, etc. For less than 1500$. I would personally
>>>>>>recommend the dual athlon, since it will be the fastest solution at a
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry what kind of DDR ram do you plan to put inside that system?
>>>>>Because 1 gig registered DDR ram which is the only kind of ram that
>>>>>can be put inside is already pretty expensive. Mainboard $500 or something,
>>>>>processors 1.4Ghz (are also palomino core if i understand it well, though
>>>>>not sold as MPs but as 'tbirds' or whatever).
>>>>>
>>>>>I see no way how to get even close to 1500$, $3000 is more likely
>>>>>
>>>>I have purchased 4x256 pqi registered DDR PC2100 ram at the price of 200$
>>>>The motherboard i will buy is Tiger MP (S2460) ATX which is currently priced
>>>>at 350$, the price will drop withing a month or two though.
>>>>The two Athlon mp prcessors running at 1400 mhz will be around 500$
>>>>And the rest of the components will not be more
>>>
>>> than 400$
>>>>so the total: 1450$
>>>
>>>that's nonsense, you need harddisk, cases, fans, coolers, keyboard,
>>>mouse, monitor and a very expensive power supply for the S2460 > 300 watts
>>>for sure as homepage says!
>>>
>>>note i've got S2462 SCSI. hell better i think than non-scsi version,
>>>but who am i :)
>>>
>>>>The prices in Denmark where i live are ridiculesly low, that might have to be
>>>>taken into concideration, i don't know the prices in other countries though.
>>>
>>>registered DDR ram is more than double the price you mentionned here.
>>>and needs very long to get delivered.
>>>
>>
>>I never said i was going to buy a new monitor, i have Monitor, keyboard,
>>speakers etc. The price i mentioned was for the computer system only.
>>and include harddisk, kabinet etc. The price i mentioned might go to 1550$(but
>>no more than that) but more likely it will be 1450$
>>
>>Antec SX1030B Black SOHO File Server
>>
>>Ext/Int.: 2 x 3½" + 4 x 5¼" /4 x 3½"
>>Size H/W/D: 522x205x473mm
>>Expansion Slots: 7
>>Power Supply: 300W
>>Motherboard: ATX
>>Cooling: 2 x 3" Low Noise
>>
>>This is the Server i bought and it cost me 135$, note it has a 300W power
>>supply.
>
>It's hard for me to believe this power supply is going to deliver you
>what you need for the motherboard. Please read the tyan homepage.
>
>A 550 watts ATX is more in the direction of what you need.
>
>400+ watts for sure. See the specifications they published there.
>A cool power supply is for example what i put inside my P3 dual:
>
>enermax eg651P-VE
>
>also works for P4.
>
>
>
>>
>>Regards
>>Jonas

This is a snip from tyans homepage on the tiger mp specs:

Form Factor
ATX footprint (12" x 10.3", 304.8 x 261.62mm)
20-pin power connector (300+W, +5V must be 30A+)

Regards
Jonas




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