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Subject: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 14:12:37 09/15/01

[D]8/p4bpk/7p/3rq3/3Npp2/PPQ3P1/3R1PKP/8 w - - 3 32

Hi here diep at the root position. It finds black up 2.857,
score is for side to move.

00:02 0 0 89848 (6937) 7 -0.396 g3xf4 Qe5xf4 Qc3-e3 Rd5-g5 Kg2-h1 Qf4xe3 f2xe3 K
h7-g6
00:04 0 0 191842 (13123) 8 -0.694 g3xf4 Qe5xf4 Qc3-e3 Rd5-g5 Kg2-h1 Qf4-g4 Qe3-g
3 Bf7-d5 Kh1-g1
00:13 0 0 1114301 (309342) 9 -1.322 g3xf4 Qe5xf4 Kg2-h1 Rd5-g5 f2-f3 Bf7-h5 Rd2-
f2 e4-e3 Rf2-f1
00:34 0 0 3839389 (662123) 10 -2.055 g3xf4 Qe5xf4 Kg2-h1 Rd5-g5 Qc3-e3 Qf4-g4 Qe
3-g3 Qg4-c8 Rd2-c2 Qc8xc2 Nd4xc2 Rg5xg3 h2xg3 Bf7xb3
01:46 0 0 13089329 (1198528) 11 -2.313 g3xf4 Qe5xf4 Kg2-h1 Rd5-g5 f2-f3 Bf7-d5 Q
c3-c2 g7-g6 Rd2-d1 e4xf3 Qc2-f2
04:41 0 0 35802996 (2823866) 12 -2.922 g3xf4 Qe5xf4 Kg2-h1 Rd5-g5 Nd4-c2 Bf7-d5
Qc3-e3 Qf4-g4 Qe3-g3 e4-e3 Rd2xd5 Qg4-e4 f2-f3 Rg5-g4
10:57 0 0 84885987 (8475502) 13 -2.857 g3xf4 Qe5xf4 Kg2-h1 Rd5-g5 f2-f3 e4xf3 Nd
4xf3 Bf7-d5 Rd2xd5 Rg5xd5 Qc3-c2 g7-g6 Kh1-g2 Qf4-g4 Kg2-f2

Hi now i play f3?? and it appears that Kasparov missed a bigger win simply.
Of course Kasparov took the endgame, i would too. Endgame with a piece up.
Peanut. FM or world champ, same result.

But if i play f3 then i see why DIEP doesn't want f3??

Process 1: engineflags=0 msk=2
process 0: engineflags = 0 denktime=10000000 maxtime=10000000
00:17 0 0 1735466 (110423) 9 3.678 Bf7-h5 g3xf4 Qe5xf4 Kg2-g1 e4xf3 Qc3-d3 Bh5-g
6 Qd3-c3 f3-f2 Kg1-f1 Rd5-d7 Nd4-e6 Qf4xd2 Ne6-f8 Kh7-g8 b3-b4
00:39 0 0 4561406 (978763) 10 3.886 Bf7-h5 g3xf4 Qe5xf4 Kg2-g1 e4xf3 Qc3-d3 Bh5-
g6 Qd3-c3 f3-f2 Kg1-f1 Rd5-d7 Nd4-e6 Qf4xd2 Ne6-f8 Kh7-g8 b3-b4
01:14 0 0 9121114 (1425761) 11 3.834 Bf7-h5 g3xf4 Qe5xf4 Kg2-g1 e4xf3 Qc3-d3 Bh5
-g6 Qd3-c3 f3-f2 Kg1-f1 Rd5-d7 Nd4-e6 Qf4xd2 Ne6-f8 Kh7-g8 b3-b4
03:31 0 0 26646550 (4533993) 12 4.123 Bf7-h5 g3-g4 e4-e3 Rd2-d1 Bh5-g6 Qc3-b2 e3
-e2 Rd1-e1 Qe5xd4 Qb2xe2 Qd4-c3 Qe2-e7 Rd5-d2 Re1-e2

Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 ALI MIRAFZALI 10:08:09 09/17/01
- Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Uri Blass 11:25:58 09/17/01
Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Bruce Moreland 21:36:22 09/15/01
- Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Vincent Diepeveen 13:15:32 09/16/01
  - Not so fast Bruce Moreland 13:30:27 09/16/01
    - Re: Not so fast Robert Hyatt 19:40:59 09/16/01
      - Re: Not so fast Vincent Diepeveen 00:36:16 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Robert Hyatt 11:31:30 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Vincent Diepeveen 14:29:33 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Bruce Moreland 16:45:50 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Vincent Diepeveen 13:51:35 09/18/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Bruce Moreland 21:44:17 09/18/01
      - Re: Not so fast Dave Gomboc 20:40:56 09/16/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Robert Hyatt 21:42:16 09/16/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Dave Gomboc 08:54:10 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Vincent Diepeveen 14:34:26 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Bruce Moreland 10:42:28 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Vincent Diepeveen 00:45:14 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Bruce Moreland 10:06:09 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Dave Gomboc 23:57:09 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Bruce Moreland 08:34:21 09/18/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Dave Gomboc 20:38:36 09/18/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Robert Hyatt 19:28:29 09/19/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Vincent Diepeveen 14:39:17 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Peter McKenzie 19:31:16 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Robert Hyatt 08:21:17 09/17/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Bruce Moreland 10:10:55 09/17/01
    - Re: Not so fast Uri Blass 14:38:05 09/16/01
      - Re: Not so fast Slater Wold 19:36:29 09/16/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Uri Blass 22:12:08 09/16/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Vincent Diepeveen 00:56:34 09/17/01
      - Re: Not so fast Vincent Diepeveen 15:24:35 09/16/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Robert Hyatt 19:42:23 09/16/01
        
        Re: Not so fast Vincent Diepeveen 00:37:26 09/17/01
Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Peter Berger 18:14:45 09/15/01
Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Slater Wold 15:37:06 09/15/01
- Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Uri Blass 02:40:31 09/16/01
  - Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Slater Wold 03:20:38 09/16/01
    - Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Uri Blass 04:20:40 09/16/01
      - Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Slater Wold 05:39:46 09/16/01
- wrong mainline Vincent Diepeveen 17:12:05 09/15/01
  - Re: wrong mainline Slater Wold 17:42:34 09/15/01
- Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Vincent Diepeveen 15:58:39 09/15/01
  - Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Slater Wold 16:53:25 09/15/01
    - Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Vincent Diepeveen 17:02:51 09/15/01
  - Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Uri Blass 16:21:28 09/15/01
    - Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Vincent Diepeveen 16:32:29 09/15/01
    - Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Uri Blass 16:25:36 09/15/01
      - Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Vincent Diepeveen 16:39:38 09/15/01
        
        Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Robert Hyatt 19:43:36 09/16/01
        
        Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Vincent Diepeveen 00:41:56 09/17/01
        
        Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Robert Hyatt 08:23:15 09/17/01
        
        Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Vincent Diepeveen 13:56:17 09/18/01
        
        Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1 Robert Hyatt 19:19:22 09/18/01

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