Author: Slater Wold
Date: 17:42:34 09/15/01
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On September 15, 2001 at 20:12:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On September 15, 2001 at 18:37:06, Slater Wold wrote: > >>On September 15, 2001 at 17:12:37, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >[D]8/p4bpk/7p/3rq3/3Npp2/PPQ3P1/3R1PKP/8 w - - 3 32 > >f3? > >[snip] >>Let's try something with SE. :) >> >>Nimzo 8 - W,S >>8/p4bpk/7p/3rq3/3Npp2/PPQ3P1/3R1PKP/8 w - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Nimzo 8: >[snip] >>1.gxf4 >> µ (-0.81) Depth: 9/23 00:00:04 4125kN >>1.gxf4 >> -+ (-1.41) Depth: 9/23 00:00:05 5255kN >>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qg4 4.f3 exf3 5.Qf2 Bd5 6.b4 >> -+ (-1.57) Depth: 9/23 00:00:07 7518kN >>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kf1 Qxh2 4.Qxe4+ Bg6 5.Qe3 Rg1+ 6.Ke2 >> -+ (-1.84) Depth: 10/25 00:00:20 22223kN >>1.gxf4 >> -+ (-2.29) Depth: 11/26 00:00:46 53952kN >>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Kh1 Rg5 3.f3 exf3 4.Rf2 Bd5 5.Qc2+ g6 6.Qc3 >> -+ (-2.62) Depth: 11/26 00:00:54 62970kN >>1.f3 >> -+ (-2.61) Depth: 11/26 00:02:05 148328kN >>1.f3 e3 2.Rd3 fxg3 3.Ne2 gxh2 4.Qxe5 Rxe5 5.Kxh2 Kg6 6.f4 >> -+ (-2.26) Depth: 11/26 00:02:15 161057kN >>1.f3 e3 2.Rd3 fxg3 3.Ne2 gxh2 4.Qxe5 Rxe5 5.Kxh2 Be6 6.Kg3 >> -+ (-2.24) Depth: 12/28 00:02:36 186147kN > >>(W, 15.08.2001) >>TA-DA! > >note that after f3 the move Bh5 wins tactical bigtime. Nimzo amazingly >hasn't smelt it yet here. e3 is leading to the endgame from which >i think DB misevaluated it bigtime. So does nimzo of course, but >not so weird is that a preprocessor misses after f3 that Bh5 wins >bigtime, hmm perhaps it is dissappointing, because IMHO it's a simple >tactical win! > >What might matter is that you perhaps had turned on 'futility' forward >pruning last 2 plies? > >Perhaps checkout next time the tactical line it outputs first before >saying TADA :) > >>Who says SE is a bad thing? :) > >I'm pretty sure that DIEP has more SE than nimzo ever will, but the >'piece threat' extensions are picking up for nimzo huge amount of tactics >usual! > >Anyway, it's not about 'who has more extensions' here. it's about the fact >that f3 is a major blunder! > >>Slate Nimzo 8 - W,S 8/p4bpk/7p/3rq3/3Npp2/PPQ3P1/3R1PKP/8 w - - 0 1 Analysis by Nimzo 8: 1.Kg1 = (0.19) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00 1.Kg1 g6 2.b4 = (-0.06) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00 1.Kg1 g6 2.b4 = (-0.06) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00 1.Kg1 g6 2.b4 = (-0.06) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00 1.Kg1 g6 2.b4 = (-0.06) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00 1.Kg1 g6 2.b4 = (-0.06) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00 1.Kg1 g6 2.b4 = (-0.06) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00 1.Kg1 g6 2.b4 = (-0.06) Depth: 5/17 00:00:00 1.Kg1 ³ (-0.51) Depth: 5/17 00:00:00 1.Kg1 µ (-1.11) Depth: 5/17 00:00:00 1.Kg1 e3 2.fxe3 Qxe3+ 3.Qxe3 fxe3 4.Rd3 e2 µ (-1.32) Depth: 5/17 00:00:00 1.h3 µ (-1.31) Depth: 5/17 00:00:00 1.h3 e3 2.fxe3 fxe3 3.Rd1 Bg6 4.Qb4 µ (-1.00) Depth: 5/17 00:00:00 1.gxf4 µ (-0.99) Depth: 5/17 00:00:00 1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qxe3 4.fxe3 ³ (-0.43) Depth: 5/17 00:00:00 1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 g5 3.Re2 Bg6 4.Kh1 ³ (-0.30) Depth: 6/19 00:00:00 1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 g5 3.Kf1 a5 4.Kg1 h5 ³ (-0.42) Depth: 7/20 00:00:01 243kN 1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 g5 3.b4 Bh5 4.Kg1 Qxe3 5.fxe3 ³ (-0.36) Depth: 8/22 00:00:01 243kN 1.gxf4 µ (-0.81) Depth: 9/23 00:00:04 3461kN 1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kf1 Qxh2 4.Qxe4+ Bg6 5.Qe3 Rg1+ 6.Ke2 µ (-1.40) Depth: 9/23 00:00:06 7809kN 1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qg4 4.f3 exf3 5.Qxg5 -+ (-1.84) Depth: 10/25 00:00:20 24274kN 1.gxf4 -+ (-2.29) Depth: 11/26 00:00:48 56748kN 1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qg4 4.f3 exf3 5.Qf2 Bd5 6.Rd1 -+ (-2.30) Depth: 11/26 00:00:54 65589kN 1.f3 -+ (-2.29) Depth: 11/26 00:01:57 140595kN 1.f3 e3 2.Rd3 fxg3 3.Ne2 gxh2 4.Qxe5 Rxe5 5.Kxh2 Be6 6.Kg3 -+ (-2.29) Depth: 11/26 00:01:58 141718kN 1.f3 -+ (-2.74) Depth: 12/28 00:03:31 250083kN 1.f3 Bh5 2.fxe4 Qxe4+ 3.Kf2 Qh1 4.gxf4 Qxh2+ 5.Kf1 Qxf4+ 6.Kg1 -+ (-2.75) Depth: 12/28 00:03:48 269180kN 1.f3 Bh5 2.fxe4 Qxe4+ 3.Kf2 Qh1 4.Qd3+ Bg6 5.Qf3 Qxh2+ 6.Qg2 -+ (-3.15) Depth: 13/29 00:07:48 550191kN 1.gxf4 -+ (-3.14) Depth: 13/29 00:07:55 559401kN 1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Kh1 Rg5 3.f3 exf3 4.Nxf3 Bd5 5.Rxd5 Rxd5 6.b4 -+ (-3.01) Depth: 13/29 00:10:27 749390kN 1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Kh1 Rg5 3.Qe3 Qg4 4.f3 exf3 5.Qf2 Bd5 6.Rd1 -+ (-3.44) Depth: 14/31 00:19:42 1430313kN (W, 15.08.2001) Better? :) Slate
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