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Subject: Re: Not so fast

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:28:29 09/19/01

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On September 18, 2001 at 23:38:36, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On September 18, 2001 at 11:34:21, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On September 18, 2001 at 02:57:09, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>On September 17, 2001 at 13:06:09, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you'll recall, that's what caused the altercation I had with that Chessbase
>>>>beta-tester "author" who was operating Hiarcs in 1999.  He declared my program's
>>>>moves "mistakes" when it was losing.  It wasn't making mistakes, it was just
>>>>trying to avoid particularly bad terminal positions, and if it needed to give up
>>>>material at the root in order to do this, it did.
>>>>
>>>>bruce
>>>
>>>Did you change this so that if the terminal score is clearly losing that it will
>>>play the move that failed-bigtime-low last?  This way, either a less tactically
>>>aware machine or a human might miss the win.  Neither of them are going to miss
>>>a win if you just cough up material at the root.  Maybe the beta-tester expected
>>>that behaviour (or maybe they were just ignorant, who knows?)
>>>
>>>I thought your Rf7 against Gandalf might have been exactly this sort of move
>>>(the one that fails low last) but I didn't sit down and analyze it.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>>No, I don't have anything like that in there, and I doubt that anyone does.  I
>>don't know what caused e5 and Rxf7 either.  The program went psycho, and I'm
>>glad it did.
>>
>>bruce
>
>At least a couple of commercials do.
>
>Dave


Berliner claimed to do this in HiTech and he claimed that it saved at least
one game vs a human.  I don't remember where he explained it, but most likely
either in an JICCA issue, or in the "Compers, chess and cognition" book...



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