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Subject: Re: chess computer ratings

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:04:53 09/25/01

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On September 25, 2001 at 00:48:29, Jouni Uski wrote:

>On September 24, 2001 at 09:53:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 24, 2001 at 04:14:30, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>On September 24, 2001 at 03:12:18, Tony Hedlund wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 23, 2001 at 09:04:34, gregory j capace wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If you have a faster processor, how much strength does this dd to the program ?
>>>>>Does Fritz 6 run any stronger on my 566 mghz, versus a 450 nghz. , like the
>>>>>rating says. How strong would it be on a 1.2 mghz. computer ?
>>>>
>>>>The step from 450 to 1200 MHz have gained 75 points so far. The step from 200 to
>>>>450 gained 79 points.
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>
>>>Very interesting! Because 1200/450 = 2.67 and 450/200 = 2.25 there seems to be
>>>diminishing return now?! Also I expect Fritz/Tiger to get 2725 rating in next
>>>list. Hmm. What says Bob?
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>
>>First, Bob says 2725 has nothing to do with reality.
>>
>>Second, not enough data.  Doubling the clock rate does _not_ double the cpu
>>speed.  Which means this is an apples and oranges discussion.  I've always
>>used the expression "doubling the cpu speed produces about 60-70 rating
>>points."  That does not mean "doubling the cpu clock speed produces ..."
>>
>>Just compare your favorite program on a 200mhz machine vs a 400 mhz machine.
>>In some cases, the 400 might be > 2x faster (ie an old pentium 200/mmx compared
>>to a PII/400 (which is based on the pentium pro core, much better processor than
>>the original pentium core).
>>
>>So the clock speed isn't very interesting.  The program's NPS is a better
>>measure of speed improvement and rating increase.
>
>But previously simple clock speed has given very good indication about chess
>speed.
>
>Jouni


Then check out the PIV at (say) 1.5ghz, vs a PIII at 750 or an AMD anything at
750 and see if you get 2x the NPS.   _that_ is the real issue.



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